The Big Debate -- Price versus Ehrman

[Edwardo Piet]

I can't work out what the debate is even about!

Price is a mysticist -- believes that the historical Jesus is legendary; Richard Carrier also holds to this POV.  Ehrman was, basically, representing the consensus of modern, secular scholarship.

Ah.

Oh I tend to enjoy debates more if it's some idiot I dislike, like William Lane Craig, getting destroyed... like he got destroyed in this debate:


William Lane Craig always does a ton of fallacies but he often creates too much of a mess for his opponent to clear up even when his opponent is 100% right and he's 100% wrong... so he's a powerful opponent in a debate because he creates so much of a mess and his opponent is always one step behind in clearing it all up.

Not so in this debate. Regardless of who is right or wrong this is the only time I've ever seen William Lane Craig reduced to confusion and bumbling because Shelly Kagan runs complete circles around him. I've never seen anyone debate as well as Shelly Kagan did in this debate.

Here's a clip:





Here's the full debate:

Shelly calls him "Bill Creg" more than once