(November 28, 2016 at 9:46 am)Tonus Wrote:(November 28, 2016 at 9:28 am)Drich Wrote: Then the question becomes the beginning of what. The beginning of time or the beginning of man? Remember we do have a whole back story to account for where Lucifer is the bright and shinning star of God. His right hand man, chief angel in charge of all other angels. Or maybe that betrayal of lucifer discounts all of his 'good works' which makes it all a lie.
That's the thing, in order to gain any insight we have to interpret. If you are referring to Isaiah chapter 14, we have the same challenge. On its face, Isaiah 14 seems to be a blistering condemnation of a now-dead Babylonian king, who sought to glorify himself above god and has fallen in disgrace like so many others. To apply it to the devil we must say that it has a second interpretation and we would have to find some way to corroborate it. But the Bible never mentions the name again. How can we be sure that Lucifer is Satan?
In addition to this I also was considering Job 1, Ezk 28 what the book of revelation says, and Genesis 3 If you put all these pictures or glimpses together you have a pretty apt description of Satan.
