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tackattack Wrote:I entertain your question only because it's a question. You've obviously shown yourself to be very bigoted against Christianity, while at the same time condemning me for being impatient. I'm very patient, however I value my time and if you continue in that vein it's not worth the time to continue using it on you.
I apologise for calling you impatient. That was aimed at other people on the thread. Although the thread title was aimed at you, others joined in, who were definitely impatient and rude. You weren’t. If my accusation seemed to be aimed at you I offer my humble apology.
I reject the label of bigot. I despise religion including Christianity for perfectly valid reasons. In the same way that I despise Stalinism. (neatly avoiding godwin’s law).
You think I have prejudged you because you are a xtian. OK. I believe (as per R Dawkins) that teaching young children is plainly and simply child abuse. Would you, for example, consent to banning Christian teaching until age 18, or at least after sex ed. If you agree to this I will revise my ‘bigotted’ opinion of you.
tackattack Wrote:Omnipotent isn't found in the Bible, I wouldn't claim that as an attribute of God. You are claiming it is. The Bible lists specific things actually that God can't do. So by your definition and using your word, he's not omnipotent. He is however many other things. The common vernacular and understanding amongst Christians rather than listing all of his attributes has compressed simplified it to the omnimax principle, for brevity alone. Unfortunately they lost a lot of accuracy in the process as well. An all power or almight being or entity will always accomplish what he set out to do. I cannot see the reason for such a being to try and accomplish failure, as it's a contradiction, but I can't see anything prohibiting it.
I am fairly sure I never said that ‘omnipotent’ was in the bible. I did claim that very many attribute ‘omnipotence’ to their god. I also claim ‘almighty’ and ‘omnipotent’ are virtually interchangeable. And ‘almighty’ is in the bible. I stand by these claims.
As to the big book of multiple choice claiming there are things that god can’t do, I refer you to the following:-
I strongly recommend not using the babble to back up your assertions.
None of which is getting any closer to the juicy carrot of evidence
tackattack Wrote:The common vernacular and understanding amongst Christians rather than listing all of his attributes has compressed simplified it to the omnimax principle, for brevity alone. Unfortunately they lost a lot of accuracy in the process as well. An all power or almight being or entity will always accomplish what he set out to do.
This is a classic example of the kind of blather that I’m trying to help you avoid.
'Omnimax'
with best regards Lucifer.
1- I responded to your omnimax on page 2 which you said nothing about here .
2-Your reasons for your bigotry are irrelevant as
Quote:Bigotry
1. Obstinately convinced of the superiority or correctness of one's own opinions and prejudiced against those who hold different opinions.
2. Expressing or characterized by prejudice and intolerance.
Which you very readily admitted to. As well as these lofty (and most likely daft) promises of physical proof for the immaterial that you try and dangle like a carrot. Frankly I don't think anyone is interested. Those there who do believe don't need physical evidence and those who don't believe, probably will just laugh at your evidence.
3- Your opinion of me matters even less than care about your "evidence" and I'll answer your question only because it was directed to me, not to pander to your ego. I do not believe religion or morality should be taught in public schools. It should be reserved for Churches and homes. Private schools can do what the parents pay them for.
4-Omnimax is in the urban dictionary and there is a wiki entry for it. It's quite common and not nearly as "made up" as you want to make it out to be. As far as tautology, I only use the term omnipotent in a circle of believers or theologans. None of them believe that one word or concept could ever encompass God and realize it's a loosely defined shorthand for what we understand of God's power.
You have not made a case that any Christian, much less anyone you can find here, believes that God has the power to anything even the logically impossible.
You've made claims full of hot air and posturing.. although your apology seemed sincere enough on paper
Now if that's it then I'm done. Now if anyone else would like to open up the discussion to the contradictory omnimax principles state your case.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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