Carrier stays in US

[henryp]

Americans, as a group, pay 12.5 million more a year if Carrier goes to Mexico.  But Americans also lose 50ish million in wages and benefits if Carrier goes to Mexico.  

Obviously oversimplified, but losing 50 million to save 12.5 million is a bad deal for America, isn't it?  

The sustainability is the tricky part.  First worlders are smart enough to recognize that buying things made by Malaysian children is bad for our economy, but too dumb to stop buying things made by Malaysian children.  Us older folks remember the 80's? when they were slapping made in america stickers on everything.  Basically saying, hey it cost 30 cents more, but your cousin Frank can keep his job.  And Americans said, I like Frank, but I'd REALLY like 6 nickels.

With Trump, and really, around the world as anti-globalism is picking up steam, people are basically asking the government to fix it for us, because we can't help ourselves.  I think that's what people want.  For the system to be rigged so we can't keep making the stupid choices we've been making for the past couple decades.  Because we can't help ourselves when it comes to choosing whatever costs less, no matter the circumstances.

Urrr, no.  The carrier workers who are prevented from working inefficiently mostly don't become permanently unemployed.  So the lost wage argument is specious.   What they would lose for hopefully a slightly longer period is a certain degree of cushy assurance that they can go on being inefficient, undereducated or undertrained in useful skills in areas where American can really have a competitive advantage, and still continues to rally corrupt political showmen such as the Donald to their aid in their parasitic effort to continue to pretend to add value to their country while really impoverishing the American economy.

It's not about lost wages to individuals.  It's 50 million dollars that Carrier was giving to Americans that is now being given to Mexicans.  That money is leaving the country.  The new jobs that they would get are unrelated to Carrier leaving.  Those jobs will be available independent of Carrier's actions.  But now some other unemployed person will be able to get them instead.

And the inefficient/competitive advantage stuff is BS.  3rd world countries not caring about their people is not an efficiency we want to compete with.  Which is why so many people were hoping Trump/Bernie did some combination of making Companies with workers in the US more efficient via tax cuts/regulation cuts, and evening the playing field with 3rd world countries via trade alterations.