RE: Carrier stays in US
December 4, 2016 at 7:54 pm
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2016 at 8:00 pm by Pat Mustard.)
(December 2, 2016 at 11:37 am)Kosh Wrote:(December 2, 2016 at 10:35 am)Aegon Wrote: I don't care if the government is saving money, I care that a corporation, to use a little hyperbole, held the government hostage with this deal. Being rewarded for keeping 800 jobs... not even the full 2,100... you know what I mean when I talk about a precedent, right?
I'm highly sceptical that $7 million is the final tally. Pence as governor of Indiana could have worked that deal by himself. No need to bring in the Donald except for the dog and pony show.
On the other hand we have Carrier's parent company, United Technologies, that is a big part of the military industrial complex. A few extra F35 orders might sweeten the deal.
Yeah, I'd add an extra few zeros on the end of that reported figure. I'd guess that it's going to be at least three orders of magnitude greater, into the billions category. Carrier'd save $7m and more per diem just by moving to Mexico, and a lot more if they moved to a slave labour country like China.
(December 2, 2016 at 12:23 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(December 2, 2016 at 12:14 pm)alpha male Wrote: $12,500,000 divided by 1,000 workers means we could afford to give each worker $12,500 per year just to break even.
Ah, no. You don't compensate people for making you poorer. In effect trump and pence has just became enablers of a crime of extortion in which each of these 1000 works are extorting $12,500 from the US economy, every year, in addition to the $7million the carrier corp has extorted from government tax receipt. Worse. The loot from the extortion is in effect being used to facilitate these workers' ability to avoid being retrained to be really productive, as oppose to doing make work and pretending to be contributing.
Oh I wouldn't be all that surprised that Carrier will still turn around and tell its factory floor workforce that they still need to take a 10% paycut off the top, and an end to benefits like healthcare or defined benefit pensions, in order to compete and ensure the jobs don't go to Mexico, or worse. The profit will be kept at the top (where no value is added), as is always the case with capitalistic systems of industry.
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