(December 8, 2016 at 12:04 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:Soldat Du Christ Wrote:I did, they didn't seriously adress any of the evidence. They reconised one picture, and dismissed the entire case! They rip the evidence out of context and ofcourse it's going to make it look radical. Then it goes on to explain it's orgions again not taking a seruous look at the evidence. Furthermore they quote an interview bewtween the shop owner claiming his innocince... Okay... Are you going to take his word for it like that? Is that we are all trained to do as intiliectual idividuals? NO. We INVESTIGATE, and come up with our own conclusions.
So this guy takes his gun to this pizza place that's supposed to have a pedophile ring in the basement to 'self-investigate', shoots up the place a bit, and it didn't even have a basement.
Why are you taking this seriously? Investigate the case? There's not even evidence that there is a case to investigate.
What skeptics are trained to do (hopefully) is to evaluate claims rationally in light of the available evidence and assign degree of acceptance in proportion to plausibility. In this case, the odds that internet 'detectives' looking for confirmation of their worst prejudices found codes where there are none is very high, and the odds that they are right merely by coincidence (since their methodology is the opposite of how you reach a justified conclusion) is very low. Plus, they've already been proven wrong about an essential aspect of the story: the basement where it was supposed to be happening doesn't even exist. It was completely made up.
In science, every link in a chain of argument must be intact for the conclusion to be looked at as confirmed/viable.
In religion, OTOH, breaking a single link in a chain of argument has no effect, like Jesus' followers having to keep the law to enter the Kingdom according to Matthew, but absolutely not having to keep the law according to Paul would completely disprove all versions of Christianity relying on Matthew and Paul as sacred dogma if religion was played by 'science rules'.
That there are not tunnels with children and giraffes in them beneath Comet Ping Pong does not, in the eyes of conspiracy folks who play by religious rules of evidence instead of science rules, is not conclusive proof to them that there is no pedo ring being run by Podesta and Hillary (how does Anthony Weiner get a pass on this, BTW?). And then we have some seemingly confirming facts, such as Trump being involved by his association with the billionaire pedo guy with the business jet, which is in fact true, and we're looking at a clusterfuck that is going to have some legs now. And then having Bill, instead of Hillary, flying on the pedo-jet too, although apparently not at the same time as Trump, over 2 dozen times, well, to these conspiracy folks, there is some 'there' there.
That it circles back to Trump is pretty funny, BTW, and looking over his reported peeping at the teen pageant and a taste in mistresses and wives that trends to the younger side of the demographics, it's real easy to see where this mess could bite Trump on the ass in regards to the pedo thing.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.