RE: Watch WLC dodge a clear question.
December 10, 2016 at 8:50 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2016 at 8:54 pm by bennyboy.)
(December 10, 2016 at 2:26 pm)Jehanne Wrote: If Craig (or, you, or anyone else) cannot say how God created the Universe, then how can it possibly "mean" anything?I think you're moving the goalposts. It is really NOT clear what point Kuhn might have been trying to make, and I really don't think WLC dodged that question or any other. In fact, I think he summarized his position extremely well. And I think he's right that a reasonable-minded Christian might look to the Big Bang as support for the idea that something may be created out of nothing. The difference is that the Christian has the philosophical God idea to explain why there WAS a Big Bang, whereas the rest of us have to speculate other equally unsatisfying things: quantum foam etc. etc.
After all, how do physicians cure a disease? What does it mean for a physician to cure a disease? Do they simply "cure" it? Or, do they do certain things (such as prescribing antibiotics) to cure an illness, disease, etc. I think that this is the point that Kuhn was trying to make here.
Quote:This is a good position. As I say to the Christians: if you get to special plead just ONE entity which exists but need not have been created, why not special plead that the universe has this property, rather than inventing a 2nd entity who gets that consideration?(December 10, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Aegon Wrote: "But I challenge you to answer the question that you claim WLC is dodging: how did the universe come into being?"
It's eternal, and therefore, has always existed.