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France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp
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RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp
I do think it's a reasonable thing to suggest immigrants should be spread out. A few thousand here, some there, some stay in France, some come here, some go to Italy, some to Germany. I think the burden of the immigrant crisis should be shared between all the countries capable of taking some in, taking a proportional amount to the native population each. There is a limit on how many one place can take.

You can't have a situation where you just accept tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of people, put them in one place, and expect them to be absorbed by the general population. That doesn't work, you just end up with ghetto-ised communities and minority group politics, who do inevitably end up being handed over to reactionary parasitical Islamists who radicalise people. Absolutely nobody wins from that, which is why I don't get people (not really anyone here, it's a general point) throwing "integration" around like it's such a dirty word.

Having said that, an antagonistic attitude to immigrants themselves doesn't help. These are people (most of them anyway) fleeing from corruption and theocracy, they want to be here, they want to live in a country where they can enjoy freedom we take for granted. People are refusing to see that narrative though, they just see them as one thing - "Muslims." - here to fuck things up. That becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, when you give legitimacy to the real Islamists among them by treating that mindset like it's authentic.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by account_inactive - October 24, 2016 at 7:35 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by SteelCurtain - December 18, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by SteelCurtain - December 18, 2016 at 9:53 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by paulpablo - December 18, 2016 at 11:04 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by account_inactive - December 18, 2016 at 11:06 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by account_inactive - December 18, 2016 at 11:23 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Joods - December 19, 2016 at 12:24 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by paulpablo - December 19, 2016 at 12:28 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Joods - December 19, 2016 at 12:49 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Faith No More - December 19, 2016 at 11:01 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by paulpablo - December 18, 2016 at 11:55 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2016 at 11:27 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by account_inactive - December 18, 2016 at 11:30 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Jesster - December 18, 2016 at 11:35 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by account_inactive - December 18, 2016 at 11:38 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by SteelCurtain - December 18, 2016 at 11:37 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by account_inactive - December 18, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Pat Mustard - December 19, 2016 at 5:21 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Jesster - December 18, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by account_inactive - December 18, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Jesster - December 18, 2016 at 11:48 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by SteelCurtain - December 18, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Thumpalumpacus - December 19, 2016 at 12:04 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by paulpablo - December 19, 2016 at 12:18 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Thumpalumpacus - December 19, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by paulpablo - December 19, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Thumpalumpacus - December 19, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by paulpablo - December 19, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Thumpalumpacus - December 19, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by ApeNotKillApe - December 19, 2016 at 12:34 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Jesster - December 19, 2016 at 1:01 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by Regina - December 19, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by SteelCurtain - December 19, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: France begins to clear 'Jungle' camp - by abaris - December 19, 2016 at 5:31 pm

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