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Time to question bioengineering.
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RE: Time to question bioengineering.
(June 22, 2011 at 7:08 pm)theVOID Wrote: So now all you're concerned with is what some ethics committee somewhere decides what is ethical?

Creating Zombies is creating life though, I thought 'life is good'?

What the hell does this have to do with self-worship?

What scenario are you envisioning where people are 'playing' with animals?

What do you mean by 'self-determination'?

It is a difficult appeal to make, I grant you. Something about it feels very unethical to ME, regardless of what an ethics committee decides. It rubs me wrong.

Creating zombies is not creating life, nor would this process be.

Self-worship in the form of taking on the powers of total control over living beings devoid of consciousness. It may not be against human nature, and I may be in the minority here, but it feels out of sorts with nature.

As for playing with animals, how is it not playing with them to remove their control of their own bodies and direct them howsoever we wish?

Self-determination as it regards free will. I see a difference between this and raising animals for food. I doubt I'll make it far on that ground, but I do feel there is a difference.

(June 22, 2011 at 7:14 pm)theVOID Wrote:
(June 22, 2011 at 7:10 pm)Epimethean Wrote: I disagree that the only reason predators do not play with their food is due to energy expenditure.

And what do you believe is happening instead? Some moral judgement?

No, simply the need to eat. Perhaps it really is simply energy efficiency, but not all predators seem to find pleasure (perhaps that is the word I want) in prolonging the imminence of a meal.
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Time to question bioengineering. - by BloodyHeretic - June 19, 2011 at 6:55 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 19, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by BloodyHeretic - June 20, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Shell B - June 19, 2011 at 11:03 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 20, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by BloodyHeretic - June 20, 2011 at 6:40 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 22, 2011 at 6:34 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 20, 2011 at 7:32 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 20, 2011 at 7:42 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 21, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 21, 2011 at 5:03 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by BloodyHeretic - June 21, 2011 at 5:09 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 21, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 21, 2011 at 5:10 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by BloodyHeretic - June 21, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 22, 2011 at 4:28 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 22, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by BloodyHeretic - June 24, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 4:58 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 22, 2011 at 6:17 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 23, 2011 at 8:52 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 6:29 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2011 at 6:40 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 22, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 22, 2011 at 7:45 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2011 at 7:01 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 22, 2011 at 7:14 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Faith No More - June 22, 2011 at 7:10 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 7:53 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 22, 2011 at 8:34 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2011 at 8:31 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 8:51 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2011 at 9:05 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 22, 2011 at 11:02 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 9:20 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2011 at 9:32 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 9:43 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2011 at 10:05 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 10:17 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 22, 2011 at 10:55 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 23, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 24, 2011 at 8:48 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 23, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by HeyItsZeus - June 23, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 23, 2011 at 11:40 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 25, 2011 at 2:32 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Violet - June 25, 2011 at 2:35 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 25, 2011 at 2:53 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by BloodyHeretic - June 25, 2011 at 2:25 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 25, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Violet - June 25, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 25, 2011 at 8:07 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by theVOID - June 25, 2011 at 8:41 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 25, 2011 at 8:45 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 25, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 26, 2011 at 11:09 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 26, 2011 at 11:33 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 26, 2011 at 11:34 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 26, 2011 at 11:36 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Violet - June 26, 2011 at 2:28 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 26, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 26, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 26, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Violet - June 26, 2011 at 4:19 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 26, 2011 at 3:46 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 26, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Violet - June 26, 2011 at 6:07 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 26, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 26, 2011 at 4:30 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 26, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 26, 2011 at 4:34 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 26, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 26, 2011 at 7:33 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 26, 2011 at 7:36 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Violet - June 26, 2011 at 7:49 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 27, 2011 at 1:40 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Violet - June 27, 2011 at 2:09 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Napoléon - June 27, 2011 at 9:50 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Epimethean - June 27, 2011 at 2:12 am
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Violet - June 27, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RE: Time to question bioengineering. - by Autumnlicious - June 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm



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