(June 25, 2011 at 2:25 pm)BloodyHeretic Wrote: Yes it is profoundly ignorant of scientists, or anyone, to suggest that liberal artists have nothing to contribute to a scientific ethics debate. The objection that they know 'jack shit' should perhaps exclude you from the debate.
In the same vein, that is similar to suggesting that priests and other religious leaders should be consulted and contribute to scientific ethics. After all, even if they know 'jack shit' about what is being discussed, doesn't stop them from having an opinion on it.
Opinions, like many "liberal artists" searching for something to do with themselves, are like assholes -- everyone has one.
(June 25, 2011 at 2:25 pm)BloodyHeretic Wrote: I think you said it well yourself "There is a great need to understand the limits and capabilities of our fellow animals, only if to better evaluate what we can do and can't do, for ethical, scientific reasons". I don't think the fly is equivalent to the chimp because of it's limits and capabilities. Seems you don't either.
I was noting that some posters take up issue with the concept of controlling any animal. That is why I even made mention of such. It was misplaced of a statement -- not directed at you per se.
And yes, I actually have been consistent in advocating for research and development of said technologies, for the purpose of gathering knowledge.
(June 25, 2011 at 2:25 pm)BloodyHeretic Wrote: I did indeed mean transhumanism. I said Neo-evolution because after watching this video I thought they were the same thing.
Neo-evolution is a bogus hijacking of the word 'evolution'. Evolution is merely a process that models the natural relative propagation and adaptation of groups and/or species (as a subgroup of a species may indeed be isolated and 'branch off').
Evolution has nothing to do with bio-engineering; the latter is more akin to intelligent design (as in a human intentionally designing/engineering an outcome).
(June 25, 2011 at 2:25 pm)BloodyHeretic Wrote: You just like being obnoxious? Fair enough.
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Here, eat some more melon. It's good for you.