The Bible

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You are ... at no point at all in this forum have I said that.

You called other Christian churches (ie non Catholic Churches) cults I believe.

Then you believe wrongly.

For the record I consider ALL religions, no matter which hokey god they follow, to be cults and nowhere in this forum (or indeed elsewhere) will I have intentionally said otherwise.

Fair enough. Thank you for the clarification.

So are you saying that you were fully a Christian in a way that would be acceptable to the wider Christian church then? Even though you equate as Christian some anti Christ and anti Christian acts. I'd find that very hard to believe given your opinions on the subject.

I am saying that all Christian variant cults (including Catholicism) are Christian ... or to put it more simply, Catholics and any other cults that follow any significant part of the claimed teachings of Jesus Christ can be considered Christian.

Did you miss where I said Catholicism is a Christian Church?

If you understood Christianity like say thoughtful does, than I could believe it. You display the incredulity of someone who has never considered the subject from the other side. No problem with that per se. Only if you profess knowledge you don't actually have.

IOW Thoughtful simply sates things a little closer to what you believe (possibly because he's relatively recently escaped the cult's clutches) which is just another mild variant on the No True Scotsman fallacy.

You really stretch the NTS fallacy beyond reason Kyu.

Not that I don't believe you were exposed strongly to the Catholic faith, and to a lesser extent Church of England teachings. Of course you lived that. What I'm talking about is real Christianity as experienced by people primarily professing a belief in Christ and not professing membership of a church like that matters diddly squat to anyone's belief.

And that is just another play using the NTS fallacy.

And that's another dodge.

Neither am I criticising those you knew and their beliefs or moral fibre.

I am not claiming you were I am simply highly critical of your claim that they weren't Christian or weren't "real" Christian which from the more objective eyes of an atheist invokes the NTS fallacy.

It is no where near the NTS fallacy. Your understanding of Christianity is far from accurate, is all I'm saying.