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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 29, 2011 at 7:33 pm
(June 29, 2011 at 7:16 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
That at least one person came to the conclusion of creation is obvious, someone had to write the fairy tale to begin with. Are you attempting to argue that people can come to the idea of creation today without referring to the scripture that proposes creation...(.we are talking about biblical creation here aren't we, or do you profess the absolute truth of other cultures creation myths as well?)
You don't get my germ theory point, no problem.
I mentioned that it would be a simple thing for a god to reveal themselves.
You countered that you do not believe god wishes to reveal itself in such a manner. Your justification in this was that the position that god could/would reveal itself to humanity in the manner that I proposed was not supported by scripture.
I have stated that the Germ Theory of Disease has no support in scripture, implying that a position or theory is not dependent upon confirmation in scripture to be true, and that further, confirmation in scripture does not confer any additional element of truth upon a position or theory.
It may be interesting to note that the sect known as Christian Science actually does believe that scripture has a position on the Germ Theory of Disease, and that the position the scriptures take is contradictory to this theory. I cannot find this contradiction in scripture personally, so I have simply stated that scripture has no position. Perhaps a lurking Christian Scientist could inform us all.
Have I cleared that up for you?
almost forgot, I'm not only arguing things that christians don't believe, I'm arguing against nearly everything christians DO believe.
Thanks for the clarification, yes that does make more sense now.
To your first point, a person should be able to arrive at the existence of a Creator by observing the world around him alone. This actually happens quite often, this will then prompt the person to turn to scripture to learn more about this Creator. So scripture is saying that atheism is never justified because everyone should believe God exists because of His natural revelation, those who suppress this truth will be held accountable.
As to the germ theory point, I think we kind of missed each other on that one. I never said that all knowledge should be exclusively derived from scripture. I was saying that if we are having a theological discussion about the God of the Bible we should discuss the God of the Bible. In order to do this, we have to look at His scriptural revelation to avoid discussing something that does not pertain to the God of the Bible. I felt you were making a point about God that really did not pertain to Him was all.
