(April 26, 2009 at 8:28 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 7:44 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 7:03 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: I am saying that all Christian variant cults (including Catholicism) are Christian ... or to put it more simply, Catholics and any other cults that follow any significant part of the claimed teachings of Jesus Christ can be considered Christian.
Did you miss where I said Catholicism is a Christian Church?
So you've dropped all these ideas that Catholics are not Christian like all the rest of the Christians? We can finally (at least with you) but this ridiculous segregationalist concept to bed?
I already had before you started this particular crusade Kyu. Go read the posts.
(April 26, 2009 at 8:28 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 7:44 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 7:03 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: IOW Thoughtful simply sates things a little closer to what you believe (possibly because he's relatively recently escaped the cult's clutches) which is just another mild variant on the No True Scotsman fallacy.
You really stretch the NTS fallacy beyond reason Kyu.
Check the No True Scotsman fallacy thread.
I did. You unanimously claim that your warped misconception was actually a new No True Scotsman definition. Screw you.. I'm sticking with the official interpretation thanks.
(April 26, 2009 at 8:28 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 7:44 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 7:03 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And that is just another play using the NTS fallacy.
And that's another dodge.
In what way was I dodging? Be specific.
Go read the fucking question. I'm not your mum. Go wipe your own ass.
(April 26, 2009 at 8:28 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 7:44 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 26, 2009 at 7:03 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: I am not claiming you were I am simply highly critical of your claim that they weren't Christian or weren't "real" Christian which from the more objective eyes of an atheist invokes the NTS fallacy.
It is no where near the NTS fallacy. Your understanding of Christianity is far from accurate, is all I'm saying.
And you are wrong to assume or believe that I know so little about your dumb hokey belief system ... 16 years of Catholicism, 22 years of what I thought was agnosticism (including 3 years at an Anglican church) and 13 years of debate with theists of all stripes says otherwise.
Kyu
Right. So you were 'taken' to Catholic church as a kid and didn't commit at all, ever; then you attended an Anglican church AS AN AGNOSTIC for 3 whole years witout ever committing (ie understanding) again, and then argued with theists for 13 years after that. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT GIVE YOU ANY CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND IT ALL ALL? (Clue... IT DOESN'T)