(February 14, 2017 at 10:40 am)Asmodee Wrote: Oh, there are arguments against it aplenty. First, free will is a later concept, not something which actually made it into the Bible. The Bible never even hints that this is a thing. Quite the opposite, God freely tampered with free will in the Bible. When she really wanted to punish people for ding bad she "hardened Pharaoh's heart" to make sure he would do bad so she could punish all the little babies in Egypt. The God of the Bible certainly doesn't hold free will as this sacred pinnacle his followers today do.
And then there's the big argument against it. If free will is so important, why will it no longer exist when you get to Heaven? If free will is so important to God then why is the destination sans-free will? I've never heard any Christian say that they think you will have the ability to sin in Heaven. So right now free will is the most important thing ever, but in Heaven it will be utterly unimportant? How about this as an alternate explanation. Given that free will is not mentioned in the Bible at all, that God herself tampers with it as if it's meaningless and that it will no longer exist in Heaven, isn't it possible that free will is really nothing more than a convenient excuse to throw out when your brain just isn't limber enough to do the real mental gymnastics it takes to excuse the idiocy and contradictions in your beliefs? Because I'm thinking that's the answer right there.
Looks to me as if you didn't read my first post to you, if you had you would of seen that I said you only have complete free will in one area. As l've said in other threads, outside of that anything could happen. God has providence over His creation.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
