RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis
February 15, 2017 at 11:18 pm
(This post was last modified: February 15, 2017 at 11:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 15, 2017 at 10:42 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Fine. Pull out your Qualiometer 3000, and demonstrate that a brain, or ANY other physical system, has qualia.I was under the impression that you didn't have much of an issue with the notion that our ability to experience has something to do with our brains. Whatever else it might have to do with, that thing is happening in our brains as well, eh? In any case, are you now doubting the existence of qualia? I thought that was accepted by both of us?
Quote:The question is why you don't believe ALL the universe is this way.Seems like a silly question to me. I experience, you experience. Our experience is the thing we both discuss in regards to explanations, not some thing neither of us thinks exists or is lacking in evidence for...right?
Quote:Great! Show me some qualia, and we'll look at it under a microscope, and it's a done deal.Didn't Jorg once have some very clear and concise comments on this subject, with regards to how we measure electricity, and the inanity of claiming, then, that we do not or cannot measure qualia? Perhaps you don't accept those measurements, for whatever reason...or you suddenly become a qualia skeptic, but meh.
Quote:That's because everything you just said begs the question.What question? You set the scenario. You clearly wanted it to yield some ghost, but fucked it up. That's your problem, not mine. It wouldn;t matter if I -had- begged some question....you, still, fucked, it, up. Work on your inferences.
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