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The Oppression Olympics
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RE: The Oppression Olympics
(February 17, 2017 at 12:36 am)InquiringMind Wrote:
(February 16, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Aristocatt Wrote: It would be nice if the OP could define oppression.  

And with this, I believe, we come to the crux of the matter.  

The vast majority of those who claim to be oppressed have their basic needs met.  So what, exactly, is the oppressive system denying them?

I believe, for present political purposes, and for the purposes of the Oppression Olympics, I will define "oppression" as lack of social status.  

So that's really the whole thing.  People feel oppressed because they are regarded as being low-status.  Remember Maslow's hierarchy of needs?  These people have their physical needs, security needs, and belongingness needs met.  So they turn their attention to their esteem needs, a.k.a. the desire for status.

The trouble with competitions for status is that they are always zero-sum games.  In all status battles, there is always a winner and a loser.  Right now being high status, according to the superficial external criteria, is to be white, straight, male, of Christian heritage (even if you are atheist) and cisgendered.  Any deviation from that will lower your status.  

The thing is, I don't see a solution to this problem, because competitions for status are always zero-sum games.  I guess that all I can really do is thank the Cosmos that I have the status associated with being a cisgendered white male, and live the best life I can.

So having your basic needs met implies that you can't be oppressed?

Just as a wild example here, what if there were a law in place that made the maximum wage of African Americans $25 an hour.  And the minimum wage for the nation were $15 an hour.  In this fictional society lets say the CPI is roughly the equivalent of the US today, and there is full employment.
Based on your initial response, the maximum African American wage law would not be oppression because their basic needs are being met in this fictional society?

Sorry, I just don't see how having ones basic needs being met means that someone can't have a legitimate grievance about their oppression.

I can't really respond to the rest of the post if I can't clarify the above point with you, but I'll give it a shot anyway.  
What I can infer from what you said above, is that
1) Oppression can only happen if a group of people is not having their basic needs met.
2) Oppression of social status is not oppression.
If that's the case, you didn't really define oppression, you provided examples of what oppression is and is not.  

Maybe you could spell this out for me, because if you provided a robust definition of oppression in the above quote, it flew over my head.
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Messages In This Thread
The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 16, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 1:04 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 16, 2017 at 1:14 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by paulpablo - February 16, 2017 at 1:37 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 1:16 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by dyresand - February 16, 2017 at 1:24 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 1:27 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by CanOfMountainDew - February 16, 2017 at 1:31 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 16, 2017 at 1:35 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by dyresand - February 16, 2017 at 2:01 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by CanOfMountainDew - February 16, 2017 at 2:04 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 16, 2017 at 2:27 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by paulpablo - February 16, 2017 at 1:32 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by CanOfMountainDew - February 16, 2017 at 1:35 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 16, 2017 at 4:58 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Minimalist - February 16, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 1:36 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 2:05 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by CanOfMountainDew - February 16, 2017 at 2:06 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Amarok - February 16, 2017 at 2:46 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 2:34 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 16, 2017 at 3:39 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Autumnlicious - February 16, 2017 at 2:54 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Amarok - February 16, 2017 at 3:23 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Valkyrie - February 16, 2017 at 3:32 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Thumpalumpacus - February 16, 2017 at 3:38 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 16, 2017 at 3:50 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by TheRealJoeFish - February 16, 2017 at 11:24 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Thumpalumpacus - February 16, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by A Theist - February 16, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by A Theist - February 16, 2017 at 11:45 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Socrates - February 16, 2017 at 3:42 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by TheRealJoeFish - February 16, 2017 at 1:22 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Jesster - February 16, 2017 at 4:46 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by brewer - February 16, 2017 at 9:10 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 9:42 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by brewer - February 16, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 11:41 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 11:46 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by A Theist - February 16, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 11:57 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by A Theist - February 16, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 16, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 17, 2017 at 12:36 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 17, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 17, 2017 at 2:40 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 17, 2017 at 2:47 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 17, 2017 at 3:16 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by CanOfMountainDew - February 16, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 16, 2017 at 1:22 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Minimalist - February 16, 2017 at 1:04 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Crossless1 - February 16, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by A Theist - February 16, 2017 at 1:11 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Crossless1 - February 16, 2017 at 1:15 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Regina - February 16, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Autumnlicious - February 16, 2017 at 1:51 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Regina - February 17, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 16, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Kosh - February 17, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 17, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 17, 2017 at 12:52 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Regina - February 17, 2017 at 12:58 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Jesster - February 17, 2017 at 2:27 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by paulpablo - February 17, 2017 at 2:47 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Jesster - February 17, 2017 at 2:50 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by paulpablo - February 17, 2017 at 2:56 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Jesster - February 17, 2017 at 2:58 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Amarok - February 17, 2017 at 2:51 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Amarok - February 17, 2017 at 2:49 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by The Grand Nudger - February 17, 2017 at 1:09 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Regina - February 17, 2017 at 1:12 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 17, 2017 at 2:45 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 17, 2017 at 2:04 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 17, 2017 at 3:25 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 17, 2017 at 3:33 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 17, 2017 at 3:42 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by InquiringMind - February 17, 2017 at 4:03 am
RE: The Oppression Olympics - by Aristocatt - February 17, 2017 at 4:04 am



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