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LHC disproves ghosts
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RE: LHC disproves ghosts
(February 21, 2017 at 9:18 am)pocaracas Wrote: You know?... it's the first time I ever hear anyone say that the bible states that time is relative.
How does it state the relativity of time?
How does that compare with the Theory of Relativity developed by Einstein?

I said the bible states that time can differ according to point of view, which means it's relative.

Quote:But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. - 2 Peter 3:8


(February 21, 2017 at 9:18 am)pocaracas Wrote: I didn't know you were a creationist...
What do you mean by "In the beginning"?

Some hybridization and genetic modifications retain the reproducibility of the new organism. Actually, genetic modifications are at the core of how evolution works... if any modification would render the individual unfit for producing offspring, then your kids, not being like yourself nor like your wife, wouldn't produce offspring of their own. Clearly, that's not the case.
*emphasis mine*

False equivalency

Each seed must produce after it's kind, 'kind' means species, humans belong to the same species.

What you need to do is provide an example is of completely separate species producing fertile offspring.

(February 21, 2017 at 9:18 am)pocaracas Wrote: Loads of assumptions are going in there...
First: that this "physical universe" is all there is. I can't know it, but it is possible that more universes exist, all physical, too, of course.
*emphasis mine*
So you counter my assumption with assumptions?

Using that logic, it is also entirely possible that a universe exists that is undetectable to your natural senses also, correct?

(February 21, 2017 at 9:18 am)pocaracas Wrote: Second: the universe was created... again, we cannot know what lies beyond our Universe, but it is conceivable that space and time can stretch beyond it, leading one to conceive that the big bang of our Universe was some event in a potentially infinite space-time framework... to call that a creation, I think, implies that it had a creator... would you say that you create CO2, when something is burning? or would you say that the burning of some organic material, such as wood, generates CO2?... no creator required... So could our Universe have come about through some physical mechanism, possibly yet unknown to us, possibly unknowable.... clearly untestable, as far as I'm aware.

Again, more assumptions.

(February 21, 2017 at 9:18 am)pocaracas Wrote: Third: God clearly existed... well, if it was that clear, this forum and many like it wouldn't exist, would they? Do you think we're just actively denying the obvious when we don't acknowledge the existence of that god? How obvious is it, when you need to be taught about it, from childhood, or else, you'll have a hard time believing it?... How obvious is it, when you can be taught something a bit different, just because you were born on some other location of the planet? How obvious is it, when you have to believe?
You asked me specifically about the Bible, and my answer was in relation to that.

The point is if a spirit has ALWAYS been defined as being incorporeal, you cannot turn around and claim that spirits don't exist because you can't detect any "substance"...

(February 21, 2017 at 9:18 am)pocaracas Wrote: Fourth: God clearly existed before the Universe - dude, if you're positing that nothing but your god exist if no Universe exists, then there is also no time, no before, no concept of action. I know this is a difficult notion. But do take some time to ponder it. No Universe = no space = no time = the philosophical nothing.... except your god! A god that can do no action for time does not exist to pass... time does not exist for a sequence of events to unfold... time does not exist to create something. I can totally understand that people in centuries past couldn't even conceive of the absence of time, but this is the 21st Century... we now have some grasp on it... you claim to have a decent IQ, use it.
*emphasis mine*
EXACTLY! God is Eternal, time doesn't exist.

This goes back to time being relative doesn't it?

Answer this, say it takes light 100 million light years to travel between two points, if you were a photon how long would it take YOU?

(February 21, 2017 at 10:18 am)KUSA Wrote:
(February 21, 2017 at 8:40 am)Huggy74 Wrote: So the creator must be part of the creation?
When a woman has a baby, the woman and the baby are both part of the same physical reality.

Another false equivalency, can a woman create a baby by speaking? If not, then how is it the same thing?

By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. - Hebrews 11:3
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LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 18, 2017 at 9:24 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 9:47 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 18, 2017 at 10:30 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 10:55 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Alex K - February 19, 2017 at 2:34 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 19, 2017 at 2:46 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by deleteduser12345 - February 19, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Thumpalumpacus - February 18, 2017 at 9:51 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by ignoramus - February 18, 2017 at 11:05 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Edwardo Piet - February 18, 2017 at 11:37 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Neo-Scholastic - February 19, 2017 at 1:52 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2017 at 2:13 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by ignoramus - February 19, 2017 at 2:27 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2017 at 11:11 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2017 at 11:06 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by vorlon13 - February 18, 2017 at 11:09 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Edwardo Piet - February 18, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 10:17 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by paulpablo - February 19, 2017 at 2:08 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 2:17 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 11:18 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2017 at 11:19 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2017 at 11:58 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 19, 2017 at 12:08 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 12:41 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 12:44 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 19, 2017 at 1:17 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:20 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:14 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:24 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 19, 2017 at 1:30 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 19, 2017 at 1:23 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:28 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:27 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:30 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:48 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:57 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 19, 2017 at 2:16 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 19, 2017 at 7:28 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 21, 2017 at 9:18 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 21, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 10:42 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 21, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 21, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 1:02 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 21, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 22, 2017 at 5:36 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 22, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 22, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 22, 2017 at 10:48 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 23, 2017 at 3:28 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 23, 2017 at 6:54 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 24, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 24, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 24, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 24, 2017 at 3:47 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 24, 2017 at 8:35 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 26, 2017 at 3:29 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2017 at 1:08 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:01 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2017 at 1:11 pm
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:35 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by frankiej - February 19, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by I_am_not_mafia - February 19, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by LastPoet - February 19, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Mr Greene - February 19, 2017 at 2:35 pm
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 21, 2017 at 8:06 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 8:40 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 21, 2017 at 8:49 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2017 at 10:53 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 21, 2017 at 10:18 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 21, 2017 at 11:05 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 21, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Alex K - February 23, 2017 at 9:32 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 24, 2017 at 2:34 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 24, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 24, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 24, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Alex K - February 24, 2017 at 5:46 pm



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