LHC disproves ghosts

[Huggy Bear]

Psychological perception of time and actual relative time are two VERY different things.
You may do well to use different words (or expressions) to refer to the two concepts.
That you have been using the same wording as a shortcut to claim that the bible possesses some knowledge of actual relative time comes across as disingenuous...

I think the scripture was pretty clear, 1 day to God is 1000 years in relation to man, which means time is relative...

rel·a·tive
1. considered in relation or in proportion to something else

Challenge accepted!
Different species of fruit flies have successfully been produced in the lab, after lots and lots of generations.
Do you need me to google it for you?

Or are you going back to say, like others have before you, that » they're still fruit flies, just a different species of fruit flies, so.... still the same "kind" « ??

If they are able to produce fertile offspring then by definition they are the same species.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species

In biology, a species (abbreviated sp., with the plural form species abbreviated spp.) is the basic unit of biological classification and a taxonomic rank. A species is often defined as the largest group of organisms in which two individuals can produce fertile offspring, typically by sexual reproduction.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/species

Species

2. Biology. the major subdivision of a genus or subgenus, regarded as the basic category of biological classification, composed of related individuals that resemble one another, are able to breed among themselves, but are not able to breed with members of another species.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_41

For example, these happy face spiders look different, but since they can interbreed, they are considered the same species: Theridion grallator.

Do note that you believe your assumption to be an accurate representation of reality.
I do not believe mine to be a representation of reality.... I merely accept it as a possibility.

Does this distinction make sense, to you?

Then in that case you must also accept mine as a possibility...

Again, same distinction.
I say A, and B, and C are possibilities that we, given our current knowledge, cannot discard.
You, however, discard every possibility, except your belief. Why?

Because there can only be one possibility and I choose to believe what the bible says about it. Your position is also know as confusion.

No, I didn't ask about the bible...
Here's what I asked:
> "do you think that the bible's description of a spirit is a trustworthy representation of reality?"
> "If yes, then what makes you think so? Why do you accept it as representative of reality?"

Do note that both questions are about you.
They're designed to make you think about why you believe in what you believe.... how you came to believe it... stuff like that.



So, whatever the definition of a spirit is, do you think it agrees with the reality that you see around you?

How can a spirit agree with reality if it's not part of it?

*emphasis mine*
EXACTLY! God is Eternal, time doesn't exist.

This goes back to time being relative doesn't it?

Answer this, say it takes light 100 million light years to travel between two points, if you were a photon how long would it take YOU?

Eternal means that it is present at all times.
It doesn't mean that it is present in the absence of time... whatever "present in the absence of time" means.

Trust me, it is way more difficult to wrap your head around this concept than religious philosophers will make you believe.
Try to think about the absence of time. You will most surely think using some internal language... most likely English. Virtually all verbs in English imply the passage of time, so my advice is: avoid them.
"No time" is not "stopped time".
"No time" is not "all time".
"No time" is no action, no entropy, no energy, nothing... and as far as I can see it, unless we posit an illogical exception, no god - no reasoning, no thinking, no creating.

I try to be careful when using words to describe this scenario... but I still fail and have to resort to "whatever X means", because even I fail to wrap my head around the concept...

I notice you didn't answer my question...