RE: Ancient civilizations
March 27, 2017 at 3:47 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2017 at 3:51 am by WinterHold.)
(March 26, 2017 at 3:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Atlas, I don't give favor to the word "belief" one bit, I could care less if your "belief" leads you to claim Allah or Jesus or Thor or claim that JFK was murdered by the mob, or that 9/11 was an inside job, or claims of vampires. When one has knowledge backed up by FACTS you don't have to believe, you know, and when you know, you can demonstrate it and back it up with facts. Facts are not beliefs, facts are demonstrable and provable and that is what gives humans knowledge.
I don't have to merely "believe" in computers, I know they exist because they are demonstrable FACTS of reality. I could care less what you "believe" I do care about what you claim to know and what FACTS you have to back up that knowledge. Claims are like assholes, everyone has one.
There are lots of nutty alien claims linked to all sorts of ancient cultures, Mayans, Egyptian, Atlantis, even new age crap like Heaven's Gate. That entire explosion of alien claims was more a result of rural ignorance surrounding military bases back during WW2 when people saw new technology when they were not supposed to and confused that with being alien ships. It's conspiracy crap on par with 9/11 crap. Conspiracy crap works backwards where the buyer tries to retrofit new bullshit claims to science and or old mythology.
Now, if you want a more realistic and scientific view of what we might prove in the future, scientists know that the atoms on earth are plentiful throughout the universe. We also know some species of life can survive extreme conditions, like the water bear, which is microscopic and can survive up to 350 degrees below zero and up to 400 degrees above zero. A more realistic view would also be the shear number of galaxies to the tune of 150 billion known so far, which would constitute billions of stars each, which would constitute even more planets. I have no doubt we will eventually prove that microbial life can live, say on Mars if we were to send it to a colder part of the planet.
But no, I don't buy the ancient alien garbage of any flavor. I don't think any human like life has visited us because we are so remote and the distances involved if we were to even just communicate, if ever would still be stuck locally to a greater or lesser degree like we are.
There is a huge difference between what REAL scientists say about the probability and likelihood of other life existing outside our solar system and galaxy, vs isi fi TV and social media garbage.
The story used to cover secret new military tech, the manufacturer blew the story and tin-foils did the rest.
The amount of investment put in the strengthen of military tech is enormous and scary, speaking of which it's not just brute-force that gained a boost after WW2, also intelligence and tactics took their share of boost, 9/11 had explanations that took that boost into account, war has changed.
As for "aliens", it's hard for me personally to believe the above, then believe in aliens; Brian. Though, all I can think of logically is that aliens in the form presented by the media are just the imagination of an author somewhere, looking like us, having fingers like us, skin like us, well that's just "too" human to be "alien".
Gawdzilla Sama
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BrianSoddingBoru4
I was moved by him when I was little younger, but more disappointments followed every time I search for the info provided in Ancient Aliens, attacking and shaming the human mind as being incapable of thinking outside the box by itself, is quite insulting. We don't need aliens.
Brian37
Quote:It is not a theory anymore than creationism can replace evolution.
We have not been visited by little green men. The Mayans were not, the Egyptians were not and Atlantis is a myth. And the Heavens Gate morons needlessly committed suicide because their head asshole convinced them a spaceship was hiding behind a comet.
Their civilization are an evidence for the limits a human brain would travel to find a God behind the complex system of the universe.
The Mayans were obsessed with the stars for a reason.
Khemikal
Quote:Who told you that?
Darwin and lots of evolution believers
Quote:They didn't have our tech (tech and tools would be redundent in context). It was more challenging to them, then. I'm just not seeing the point here?
Zero possibility is what astonishes me; I'm not being sarcastic because the locations and the structures just cannot be without modern tech, that's the point