(January 16, 2016 at 8:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So Hitler assigns a value to himself. I guess that's his value. Or it what value him to be that, that is his value too. Or right, there is none really but let's just assign value anyways! So in this approach do we really assign value or disbelieve in the true value to humans? I don't see any real assigning value except lip service to the very fact we by our nature do so automatically.
It's wrong because it's double think. It's dishonest approach to who we are and the knowledge we been given.
To deny the sacred, you are willing to go as far as to deny yourself having an actual value independent of what you assign yourself or what other assign you.
I never once saw one person here enthusiastic to hear a proof of God or ways we can know God. Everyone takes in a way with a negative attitude with no iota of enthusiasm to want God to be true or a way to know it's truth.
You are still having trouble differentiating between things, their properties, and ideas about them.
"Value" is not a thing. It's not a property of a thing. It's an idea that a person has about a thing. Hitler certainly had the capacity to assign a value to himself, or to Poland, or to whatever he wanted. I have the capacity to assign value to myself, or to an ice cream Sundae.
What's this bullshit you keep saying about dishonesty? Here's what honesty is. I think your God is a bullshit idea made up by people. I think you are a spreader of bullshit, because you are constantly trying to persuade us to adopt an idea for which you can provide no evidence. I think you are a hypocrite, because while you blame others for their closed mindedness, you are not opening your heart and mind to the wonders of Zeus, of Thor, or of the monster hiding under my son's bed. Where's your "iota of enthusiasm" to know the truth of the thousands of other gods that people believe in, or have believed in?
You think thousands of gods are bullshit, and one is the real deal. In 1000 cases, you take the exact same position and attitude as all the other atheists around here. Now. . . just realize that the group should be 1001, and you can crawl out from under your Dark Ages religious rock and into the sunlight of the modern mind.