The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.

[WinterHold]

That's the whole problem with MK's theses:  He's taking what he considers valuable and declaring that everyone else should also value it.

I don't mind someone suggesting things (for example, biking) that I might or might not enjoy and find valuable.  I could always get a bike, give it a try, and assess for myself whether it's love, hate, or *meh* and whether it's worth pursuing further.

In the end, we determine our own values.  If we cannot do this, those values will never be ours and from a moral POV we are no better than puppets.

Where MK fails -- and fails hard, time and time again -- is when he combines with his suggestions various insulting assertions to the effect that we're lying, or that we hate his imaginary friend, or some other aspersion on our characters.  That is not cool.  That is not an appropriate form of discourse.  I see it as profoundly disrespectful and arrogant, particularly as many of us came from theistic backgrounds, did give it a try, and now have solid reasons for our non-belief.

We're saying inside a scope, something has objective value.  But the value that is objective  inside the scope doesn't have objective value outside the scope.  It's not especially intuitive, particularly with the word value showing up a few times.  Value doesn't have value takes a second to wrap your head around, and that's for people who aren't invested in the idea of value having value. 

As for the other stuff, I've never felt patronized or insulted in any of my dealings with MK.  Perhaps experiences in your theistic backgrounds/or past experiences with theists have made a lot of you super duper sensitive?  That would also explain why every time he posts, a bunch of people seem to trip over eachother rushing to make some shitpost.  "TRY TO TELL ME GOD IS REAL!! GET THE FUCK OUT MOM!!!  umm... I MEAN MK!"  Which is fine, I guess.  We all have our shit.  But I'm not the person to complain about it too, because from where I'm sitting, it looks a lot more like stuff being projected onto MK than anything he's doing.

No.
He is:
1- A Shiite 
2-He takes gymnastic jumps around what his religion truly says
3-Dodges explaining what his faith actually says


We have thousands of Sunni, Shiite, Christian missionaries, who roam forums and chat rooms to preach for the faiths they believe.
Their religions are giving the excuse to torture and kill. Their preaching clears the way for dictators to torture their locals, then cry to western democracies for immigration visas, after leaving their native lands destroyed in agony because of the blood they preach.

My life is destroyed because of such systems that use religion to rule with a fist of steel, the missionary cycle is essential to their bloodbath; it's not the member called "MK"; there are thousands like him with affiliations to Sunni states (like Saudi Arabia) or cults, or Shiite states (like Iran)  or cults, or Christian churches from let's say: (India).

So excuse me, but he has lots to explain concerning his faith; he is not saying the truth when he is asked and I know it because I spent 12 years studying religion in the form of school courses, let me unfold them:
1-Quran (reading and memorizing)
2-Tawhid (Mohammed Ibn AbdulWahhab version)
3-Fiqh
4-Hadith
5-Tarbeya Islameia (Islamic raising)
Aside from the usual mathematics; science...etc.

Then, I choose to be Atlas, and throw Sunni/Shiite wicked ways behind me.

Shiite faith rewards lying and deceit, especially to convert others into the faith. If it's Islam, then why aren't shia and sunna united?
Across the Middle East -take iraq as example- Shiites and Sunnies butcher each other. Only when a fist of steel is forced is when people unite, under nationalism.

I dislike missionaries. Actually I hate them. Let's not talk about Shia, take Sunnies. They build mosques that being used to combat Shiites, lie to the poor through charities, feed a bunch of mouths then stab in the back, and call it Jihad.

Shiites are worse. Who do you think lied to the U.S about WMDs ?
Saddam was a Sunni, the opposition was Shiite. 

Sunna and Shia killed the Middle East, and seeing missionaries just makes me wonder, I mean say the truth instead of preaching?
Preach for blood, covered with lies, destroy your societies, then rest and smile over the bloody seeds your grew?

That's why you find me in MK's threads, posting what Shiite religion is.

That is not "shit" posting, but the religion is truly shitty.

"Everybody hate me" is a tantrum, attention seeking strategy if you ask me.