RE: Why are atheist...atheist?
July 12, 2011 at 3:47 pm
(This post was last modified: July 12, 2011 at 3:56 pm by Faith No More.)
(July 12, 2011 at 10:43 am)Alastor Wrote:
How about the idea that the physical laws were always in place, and the universe evolved to structure itself within these laws giving the illusion that this specificness you refer to is necessary for its existence? Who's to say the universe couldn't have evolved to fit itself within any set of physical laws?
Alastor Wrote:I don't get this statement, a choice is always a choice evidence or no evidence. Only conclusion I came to is that the universe either started off with a bias toward something or it did not. I still had choose to believe in God or not based on that.
Well then, did you choose to believe in gravity? Based on the evidence presented I see only one logical conclusion leaving my beliefs to be anything but choice.
Alastor Wrote:To answer this question, yes, I still have to choose to believe the sky blue. The sight of blueness does not, in itself, force me believe the sky blue. I have to assume my vision is correct among many other things. Need I set up the premise that God or an evil deity may be deceiving my senses?
The way you interpret the evidence is the choice. In other words, you choose to believe or not that your senses are working correctly. The result of that, the belief the sky is blue, is not the choice.
Alastor Wrote:
This is redundant because if I have no belief about something then I do not believe in it either.
Alastor Wrote:That is not evidence at all. If we are talking about a God from the Big 3 monotheistic religions, then there could be many reasons for the appearance of what we might call contradictory. These religions are exactly based logic or philosophical deduction.
God's contradictory nature is evidence that he is man made. Regardless of that, please give me some examples of why you think a god might appear contradictory.
Alastor Wrote:If my premise was not correct, then why get upset. Especially if you'd agree someones belief are ignorant when they are based on the premise I suggested.
I never got upset personally, but being incorrect in your premise does not excuse your conclusions. If you had said all black people are lazy therefore you hate them, I would not give you a pass on your hate because your assertion that all blacks are lazy is incorrect.
Alastor Wrote:Which part was not thorough because all of it was "right of the money", so to speak, after re-reading it multiple times. If the premise was wrong it was only because the dictionary I read was wrong about the definition of atheist.
You merely 'glossed over' all of your assertions making it far from thorough.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell