The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.

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The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.

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RE: The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.

April 9, 2017 at 11:09 pm (This post was last modified: April 9, 2017 at 11:11 pm by bennyboy.)

(April 9, 2017 at 10:13 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(April 9, 2017 at 10:04 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Why do you keep talking about value like it's a property of things? It isn't. And we don't need justification to value something.

Something is valued because we care about it. That's it.

Or do we care/love it through faith in it's value?

Nope. Not that.

I have the instinct for love, and that's a motivating feeling. Therefore I value the ones I love.
I have the instinct for material comfort, and that's a motivating feeling. Therefore I value money and the comforts it affords me.

There's no faith required-- human existence brings intrinsic value with it, and that value is based on our evolved instincts.

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RE: The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves. - by Chad32 - January 13, 2016 at 10:23 am

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