(April 10, 2017 at 1:07 am)AceBoogie Wrote: Certainly if there is some sort of prime mover god... it's not the god of the Bible.
That's my whole issue with the deist god... where do people get the idea that god started everything? Because we are quite certain that if there is some sort of prime mover god, it's not the Yahweh we know from the bible. So where does the idea then come from? Out of their asses?
It is a gap argument. One could plop in a giant invisible pink unicorn and claim it farted us into existence and it would have the same amount of evidence.
I really cannot stress this enough. While it is good to bitch slap ALL gap arguments, we really DO have an evolutionary explanation as to why humans make up these claims.
There is no such thing as a god, never was. That really is nothing more than humans projecting their own qualities on non human things. This gap filling is the same misfire that will cause a dog to bark at it's own reflection in the mirror.
A single atom cannot act as an adult in tact brain. The universe is also not a giant consciousness. It is also not the same structure as a human brain. If it makes no sense to place Thor as the cause of lightening, and it makes no sense to place the ocean god Poseidon as the cause of hurricanes, why would the universe need a thinking cognition to start it?
It would still as a gap answer suffer from the problem of infinite regress. If an infinitely complex cognition started all this, and everything has a cause, then that infinitely complex cognition has an even more infinitely complex prime mover, and so on and so on and so on.
It makes much more sense to say humans like what they believe and buy into a comforting lie because the thought of being finite frightens most. Ocham's razor states that the solution to a problem is going most likely be the one with the least complex baggage.
Humans make up gods. If you postulate the other, a god existing, you end up with endless regress that keeps begging the question with superfluous garbage.
If a God can exist with no cause, certainly the universe can as well.
