The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.

[Mystic]

Think of the following categories:

1. Something or action or state that ought to be valued but is not.
2. Something or action or state that ought to be not valued but is.
3. Something or action or state that ought to be valued to a degree but there is shortcoming in that degree (we value it too little).
4. Something or action or state that ought to be valued to a degree but there is overstep to that degree (we value it too much).

Is there such thing as ought to be valued?

And I do agree that this requires emotion which is why I said before love has a sacred language and judgment and perception and faith in value......and is the proof of value...the eye towards value.

Let us deal with extreme cases:

Sadam sees power as valuable to him. Question is power really something valuable to him.

You see what I'm saying, we can falsely value things and we can values things that should be valued, and we can fall short of valuing things as they are meant to be valued or over value things that are not meant to be valued to that degree.

Also, when you assign values things relative to you, don't you have to believe you have inherent value?

Can just believe we are of value without belief in inherent value in ourselves? Can we believe we should value ourselves without belief in inherent value as a property of who we are?

Thanks for the more mature discussion.

I am happy we are thinking about these things more deeply!