RE: What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian?
April 11, 2017 at 9:53 am
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2017 at 9:57 am by Harry Nevis.)
(April 11, 2017 at 6:14 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(April 10, 2017 at 9:24 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Evidence, but not convincing evidence, at least not for me and many others.
If jesus was god (that whole trinity thing) and god can do anything (that whole omnipotent thing) then it should not be a problem for god to show up and put an end to the lack of convincing evidence. Evidence any anyone holding any belief would be able to say "that is god, I'm convinced".
So SteveII, why doesn't this happen?
Kudos, because this isn't seen very often. Whether you are convinced or not is subjective, but the position that acts like all theist are believing without reason, I believe is just intellectually dishonest.
I'm pretty sure of the myriad of "reasons" people give for believing. And, by not acknowledging that there are many besides knowing it is the truth, it's you who is intellectually dishonest.
(April 11, 2017 at 6:23 am)SteveII Wrote:(April 11, 2017 at 2:06 am)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: Regarding the establishment of truth, from a theistic perspective, how does one ensure that he or she isn't subjectively interpreting the evidence in order to reinforce preconceived notions of truth?
Jesus being the son of God (his claim), dying on a cross to make it possible to to have a relationship with God, and rising again is not possible to interpret subjectively. In addition, the majority of NT teachings are not all that easy to interpret differently either (love thy neighbor as thyself, etc.).
And it's not possible to claim it actually happened without lying.
(April 11, 2017 at 9:53 am)Brian37 Wrote:(April 11, 2017 at 9:38 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: And, after all of your babble, there is STILL no evidence for your god.
That points to no "fact" except that there were a lot of people willing to believe something. And there is no "large amount of evidence" that Jesus was real. Nothing outside the bible.
Again, it's only evidence that people BELIEVED that someone named Jesus did these things.
Authenticated writings?! What a joke.
No shit. No full names, no physical addresses of the writers, nadda, just a bunch of first names. I love how they think the writers are "authenticated".
i can prove Stephen King is a real writer, but no, cars don't haunt people and your pet won't become a zombie.
We can prove someone wrote the Koran too, so what. We can prove someone wrote the Baghavad Gitas and Vedas too.
It still amounts to if you really want to believe in sky wizards you will.
Have you read the Authenticated Stephen King? Sooooo much scarier.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
