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In place of uttering “Quran is horrible” it would be more effective if you provide few examples of the “horrible things in the Quran.” I am sure you would get a good bit of appreciation from Jews, agnostics, and atheists for this.

Of course, you may find more here and here. There is also an article dedicated to anti-Semitism in Islam as well, which you can find here.

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

Qur'an 4:34

As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise.

Qur'an 5:38

If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

Qur'an 4:3

Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

Qur'an 65:4

Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

Qur'an 9:29

O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

Qur'an 2:282

I appreciate that you have spared some time for copying and pasting these Quranic verses.

 

English translation of all verses other than 4:34 & 9:29 are taken from the translation of Yousif Ali. I have searched verse 4:34 in several translations but did not find the wording that you have quoted. Please give me the name of interpreter who has translated verse 4:34 that you have quoted.

 

Wording in your quoted verse

“Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.”

Qur'an 4:34

 

Translation of Yousif Ali:

“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).”

An Nisaa (4)

-Verse 34-

 

The meanings are quite different in the two translations.

 

Secondly, the verse number of the following verse is incorrect.

 

You have quoted:

O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

Qur'an 2:282

 

The verse you are referring to is 33:50 not 2:82

 

I already had given my comments on similar verses in the past and for me it is only a matter of copying and pasting. Although I can write dedicated articles on each quoted verse with proper reasoning backed by appropriate academic references, I would not comment until you clearly express your point of contention in each verse. I am not an admirer of abstract reasoning the sole purpose of which is to spread confusion.

 

At this stage, what I can say is:

 

1.   All the instructions in the quoted verses (translation of Yousif Ali) are strictly in compliance with natural order, nature of man, and nature of woman. There is nothing in them you can prove to be unjust in any sense and if you think you are in position to give a counter argument then you are most welcome.

2.   There is no religion and no ideology in the world that can compete with the respect and status that Islam has given to women. In their media, Jews are giving a big exposure to couple of Black Sheep and are making every effort to portray women as oppressed beings in Islam however, their deceptions are emerging like bubbles and dissolving in thin air without causing harm to rudiments of Islam. In retaliation to this miserable failure, they come up with the enforcement of Hijab ban in several Western nations.

 

So, I would appreciate if you express exact point of your contention with proper justifiable reasoning.

 

In the meantime, please have a look on the status of woman in Talmud.

 

“It was taught: R. Judah used to say, A man is bound to say the following three blessings daily: "[Blessed art thou...] who hast not made me a heathen," ".... who hast not made me a WOMAN"; and "... who hast not made me a brutish man." R. Aha b. Jacob once overhead his son saying "[Blessed art thou...] who hast not made me a brutish man," whereupon he said to him, "And this too!" Said the other, "Then what blessing should I say instead?" [He replied,]...h who hast not made me a slave." And is not that the same as a WOMAN? - a slave is more contemptible.

1901 JEKethuboth 11b”

 

“[A "prayer" or "benediction" to be said by a Jewish man every day: "Thank God for not making me a Gentile, a WOMAN or a slave."]”

Menachoth 43b-44a

 

“The sages of the Talmud customarily spoke with mockery and belittlement about WOMEN, even those WOMEN who were prophets — Devorah and Chuldah. They degraded the WOMEN and claimed that the WOMEN deserve no respect and that their very names are disgusting; Devorah (bee) is the name of an insect and Chuldah (rat) is that of a rodent. Thus, too, they spoke of Avigail the prophet; when she was still married, the sages claimed, she hinted to King David that he would marry her. They interpreted her words to David, quoted in the Scriptures, “When the Lord shall have dealt well with my lord, then remember your handmaid,” — Rav Nachman said, “There is a folk saying: while WOMEN talk, they spin their own wool” [while a WOMAN talks she watches out for herself; while Avigail talked to David to save her husband, she also made sure to hint to him that he should marry her after her husband dies]” Megillah 14b

 

“WOMAN is a sack of excrement and her mouth is full of blood, but all run after her”

Shabbat 152a

 

“A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal!”

Coschen hamischpat 405

 

“Non-Jewish girls are in a state of filth from birth!”

Abodah Zarah, 36b

 

(i)(Beraisa): “It is forbidden for dogs, WOMEN or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, WOMEN or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the WOMEN are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.”

Pesachim 111a.

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You complain that we are Jews because we don't attack Christianity or your religion.  I explain that since there are NO JEWS arguing on these forums, we don't have anything to argue with.

Are you capable of understanding this very obvious truth, or are you a deluded fuckwit?

And I have given you the reason why Jews are not arguing for their religion in atheist forum. They are using atheism and atheist forum as their tool to spread immorality and corruption in non-Jewish cultures.