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Question for freethinkers
RE: Question for freethinkers
(July 14, 2011 at 3:35 am)Anymouse Wrote:
(July 14, 2011 at 3:23 am)Godschild Wrote: Was reading through this post and saw that you were using your cherry picked verse from Isaiah 45:7, this must be your strongest defense against a loving God, you seem to use it often. You asked me to try and explain that verse in the "Debunking Christianity" post in the "Christian" section and I did but never heard back from you, You should read what I posted so that you might come to an understanding that God did not create evil as you are so determined to try and prove.
Thanks,
Godschild
I'm not trying to cherry pick, that is just one of the most obvious of the Bible's verses, one which actually says it. Throughout the Bible are acts of evil (destroying every living thing for the "sins of man" - presumably trees and lions and wolves and guinea pigs were not included in that evil), slaying all the men and cattle and keeping all the virgins for the soldiers, &c ad nauseum.) Both Testaments are full of stories of evil done either by God, or in God's name.

After all, if it is your immortal soul which is in the balance, what is that compared to a little injustice to save you from eternal torment? (Inquisition, religious intolerance, all those things Middle Eastern religions are famous for). Some of the greatest injustices of the past (and today) have been done in the name of "love."

Rather than the Golden Rule, which is faulty, I'll stick to the Rede: "If you harm none, do what you want." It is more ethical, more moral, and doesn't even require a belief in a deity (an atheist can follow that particular code).

James

Yes you are and it's more than obvious that you do, you lay out a challenge about the Bible and then you run away when I give you an answer instead of commenting on the answer in some intellegent way, how sad is that. Let's see also how you have changed your idea that was first presented, you first said that God created evil, now you say God does evil, why the change, did you actually read what I posted in "Debunking Christianity" and realize that a better translation actually shed new light on the verse you love to use and ran from your own challenge. As far as I'm concerned there are so many flaws in your Rede and your comments on it that it holds no merit. If you are going to throw out a challenge man up and discuss it.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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