Our theists of all labels please answer....

[Brian37]

Bullshit, we can prove Mecca to be a real place. Muslims would point to that REAL PLACE as evidence for the existence of Allah.

Buddhists will point to their writings and real people and real places and claim that Buddha is the start of human wisdom.

Jews do the same.

Your stuck in the idea that "fact" and "history" and "scientific fact" the word "fact" means the same thing equally in all context. That is where your logic is fucking up. That is why you either unwittingly or willingly refuse to understand the importance of NEUTRALITY when using science to determine SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Religion cannot be mixed with science if the scientist wants to be neutral and objective. 

Some scientists try to escape that by claiming they are "Separate but equal".

That is simply bullshit they pull to compartmentalize to justify cherry picking the parts of science they agree with and run away from science when it points away from their claims.

The bottom line is religion and science are NOT compatible because scientific method is not a religion itself, it is a tool, a neutral tool and works regardless of any personal bias the person has. Once you try to mix religion and science you have lost all objectivity.

So every religion has followers who point to their scientists.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Science

http://thecenterforappliedjudaism.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_science

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/86563...ience.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationsh...nd_science

http://hinduismfacts.org/hindu-science/

All of you try to claim science points to your clubs. So what.

Again as someone said in a prior post.

There is only one speed of light.

There is no Jesus speed of light.
There is no Buddha speed of light.
There is no Vishnu speed of light.
There is no Yahweh speed of light.

There is only the speed of light.

The personal religions of scientists don't come into play in a neutral lab.