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Belief
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Belief
(April 29, 2017 at 2:14 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: So exactly what is this "central source of all things"? I saw you state before that "The best way I know how to define God is, very, very basically, as a central, singular source of all things." 

This does not give me/us much to go on.

Likely because it is very basic.

Quote:Does this singular source have any characteristics, qualities or identifications that you can tell us about?

Not without incurring some malleable assumptions. The reason I kept it so basic in here was because it seems the only aspect of my faith about which I can't find reason or ability to doubt. I have no issue with changing the sort of beliefs that I can actually change. The reason I created this thread was because I don't think I can change this particular one.

Quote:You say it's a source of all things, does that mean that it is a creator?
could you define "creator" in a way that's distinct from "origin", which is implied by the definition?

(April 29, 2017 at 4:59 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 29, 2017 at 4:29 pm)Valyza1 Wrote: [edit]

In what way is it a fantasy?  It's an operative assumption that the mind is ill-equipped to demonstrate, like the assumption that we aren't just imagining our entire lives.  

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It is a fantasy because it's your unsubstantiated mental construction. As far as I'm concerned it is an invalid operating belief because either you can't or lack the ability to demonstrate that it is anything other than fantasy. 
Tell me in what way it this belief not a fantasy.

In the same way believing that I'm not imagining my entire life is not a fantasy. Is that somehow more validated than believing there's an origin to everything? If so, how?

Quote:However, if you would like me or others to consider that your belief has any validity then you're going to have to step up and tell us more than "it's this thing that provides everything". (not stating that those are your words)
. Though it would be certainly nice if other people considered my belief to be "valid", I don't honestly think that's what I'm aiming for. I just want to see what other people think. Maybe learn something, maybe teach something, maybe refine something. I just want to communicate. It isn't more complicated than that.

Quote:Edit: I did notice that you mentioned eternal happiness at one point. Is this one of the reasons for your belief?
No. That was a slightly off-topic speculation about Christian zealousness








Sorry I had to re-write my responses from earlier because I had accidentally deleted them whilst trying to edit them
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Belief - by Valyza1 - April 25, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: Belief - by Simon Moon - April 25, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Belief - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 25, 2017 at 12:52 pm
RE: Belief - by henryp - April 25, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: Belief - by brewer - April 25, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: Belief - by Alex K - April 25, 2017 at 2:41 pm
RE: Belief - by drfuzzy - April 25, 2017 at 4:20 pm
RE: Belief - by Little lunch - April 26, 2017 at 8:13 am
Belief - by Valyza1 - April 28, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: Belief - by Mister Agenda - April 28, 2017 at 2:17 pm
Belief - by Valyza1 - April 28, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Belief - by FatAndFaithless - April 28, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: Belief - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2017 at 12:36 pm
Belief - by Valyza1 - April 28, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: Belief - by FatAndFaithless - April 28, 2017 at 2:43 pm
Belief - by Valyza1 - April 28, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: Belief - by FatAndFaithless - April 28, 2017 at 3:15 pm
RE: Belief - by Minimalist - April 28, 2017 at 3:24 pm
RE: Belief - by Whateverist - April 28, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: Belief - by brewer - April 28, 2017 at 5:05 pm
Belief - by Valyza1 - April 29, 2017 at 11:10 am
RE: Belief - by Whateverist - April 29, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: Belief - by purplepurpose - April 29, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Belief - by zebo-the-fat - April 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm
Belief - by Valyza1 - April 29, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Belief - by brewer - April 29, 2017 at 2:14 pm
Belief - by Valyza1 - April 29, 2017 at 4:29 pm
RE: Belief - by brewer - April 29, 2017 at 4:59 pm
Belief - by Valyza1 - April 29, 2017 at 7:05 pm
Belief - by Valyza1 - May 1, 2017 at 8:09 pm

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