Love thy neighbor

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17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matty 5:18


Last I looked, heaven and earth are still here.

Since the rest of the new testament testifies that we are no longer under the requirements of the law, Jesus obviously wasn't saying that we must follow all the requirements of the law.  I think he clarifies his position in the following verses:

Matthew 22:36-40English Standard Version (ESV)
36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

We are required to follow these two commandments, and in doing so we are fulfilling the old testament law.  The Jews, obsessed with following ordinances, never did understand the true spirit and requirements of the law.

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Soooo... God changed? He's not the same forever? He changed his mind? He made a mistake in the Old Testament?
Or... he didn't authorize the Old Testament. It was fraud. Not really divine inspiration? What's it going to be? Either Jesus is the son of the god and they're one in the same, or Jesus disagrees with his dad, or the Bible is man inspired (not the word of the god) and it's no wonder it's a load of contradictions.
I don't know how this can be confusing. Lol

Are you saying that an unchanging God cannot establish different laws to people at different times?  He established the law for the purpose of demonstrating that people were unable to follow it.  It demonstrated that we are unable to justify ourselves to God.  That is why we needed Jesus to make the sacrifice for us.  God didn't change his mind, rather it was all part of his plan for us.

What does unchanging mean to you?  Does it mean that if God was happy and then he became angry about something that means he changed?  Or maybe if he decided to make a covenant with Moses and then another covenant with Moses, then that means he changed.  I guess if I give my 14 year old son a ten o'clock curfew and then change it to eleven when he turns 16, that means I'm changing into a different person.

Pffft. I made some comments. Further back I said I don't debate anymore. It's just so annoying to me. Yes, your god could have made different laws at different times. He can be the same in character, but get angry at times. If this is what you're suggesting, your god is an asshole. So he was nice later, but a murderer before. Eff. But! I don't argue with theists anymore. No point. Unless I'm bored, or they severely trigger me. You haven't, so I really have nothing more to add.