RE: Love thy neighbor
May 5, 2017 at 3:38 am
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2017 at 3:41 am by Fake Messiah.)
Well if you ask me I think that the so called "good parts" of Jesus like the "Love thy neighbor" are the best evidence of not just how fake Christianity is but also how evil it is.
So let me explain....
For starters the phrase "Love thy neighbor as thyself" already appears in Leviticus 19:18, written a thousand years before Christ.
Or Golden Rule was already a widespread teaching well before Jesus, like Confucius in 500 BCE in "The Doctrine of the Mean 13": "What you do not want others to do to you, do not do to others." As well as Isocrates (375 BCE) said, "Do not do to others what would anger you if done to you by others." And many more.
Nevertheless Christian preachers, who surely know better, perpetuate falsehood and lie to Christians (like Lek and Catholic Lady among others) that Jesus himeslf came up with this and other "good" stuff. And that this is supposed to be the proof that he is god because this is so moral that no mere mortal could come up with this.
In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus also urged his listeners, "Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" (Matt. 5:39) and "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy' But I say o you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matt. 5:43-44).
Again these were old corny stuff even in time of Jesus, like in Taoism in text "Tao Te Ching" which goes: "I treat those who are good with goodness. And I also treat those who are not good with goodness. Thus goodness is attained. I am honest with those who are honest. And I am also honest with those who are dishonest. Thus honesty is attained" and this was written centuries before Jesus.
As well as in Buddhism in Dhammapada 223 the same thing is written: "Conquer anger by love. Conquer evil by good. Conquer the stingy by giving. Conquer the liar by truth"
Also in Ramayana: "One should never harm the wicked or the good or even criminals meriting death. A noble soul will ever exercise compassion even towards those who enjoy injuring others or those of cruel deeds when they are actually committing them—for who is without fault?"
In other words no original moral concept of any significance can be found in the New Testament. All the so called sentiments attributed to Jesus are were familiar in the Jewish schools, and to all the Pharisees, long before the time of Christ, as they were familiar in all the civilizations of the that time - Egyptian, Babylonian, and Persian, Greek and Hindu.
So the question persists, why don't Christians worship Confucius who said this stuff before Jesus? The answer is Confucius didn't threaten and blackmail people with fire and perpetual torture if they don't listen to his sayings.
Indeed when you look at people who came up with Jesus myth you see how they invented it just like Ron Hubbard invented Scientology. That they took the corny motifs from Greek and other mythologies and this well known stuff and sayings of morality and made it into business. Religious business, that is. It's so much like when you listen Harlan Ellison how Ron Hubbard made Scientology: he wanted to make a lot of money and discovered the best way is to invent religion. Since he was SF writer he hang around in those circles and they told him maybe he could use orgon energy, angrams (something like forgotten memory) and so on.
Here's the vid, the story about Scientology starts after 6th minute.
So let me explain....
For starters the phrase "Love thy neighbor as thyself" already appears in Leviticus 19:18, written a thousand years before Christ.
Or Golden Rule was already a widespread teaching well before Jesus, like Confucius in 500 BCE in "The Doctrine of the Mean 13": "What you do not want others to do to you, do not do to others." As well as Isocrates (375 BCE) said, "Do not do to others what would anger you if done to you by others." And many more.
Nevertheless Christian preachers, who surely know better, perpetuate falsehood and lie to Christians (like Lek and Catholic Lady among others) that Jesus himeslf came up with this and other "good" stuff. And that this is supposed to be the proof that he is god because this is so moral that no mere mortal could come up with this.
In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus also urged his listeners, "Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" (Matt. 5:39) and "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy' But I say o you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matt. 5:43-44).
Again these were old corny stuff even in time of Jesus, like in Taoism in text "Tao Te Ching" which goes: "I treat those who are good with goodness. And I also treat those who are not good with goodness. Thus goodness is attained. I am honest with those who are honest. And I am also honest with those who are dishonest. Thus honesty is attained" and this was written centuries before Jesus.
As well as in Buddhism in Dhammapada 223 the same thing is written: "Conquer anger by love. Conquer evil by good. Conquer the stingy by giving. Conquer the liar by truth"
Also in Ramayana: "One should never harm the wicked or the good or even criminals meriting death. A noble soul will ever exercise compassion even towards those who enjoy injuring others or those of cruel deeds when they are actually committing them—for who is without fault?"
In other words no original moral concept of any significance can be found in the New Testament. All the so called sentiments attributed to Jesus are were familiar in the Jewish schools, and to all the Pharisees, long before the time of Christ, as they were familiar in all the civilizations of the that time - Egyptian, Babylonian, and Persian, Greek and Hindu.
So the question persists, why don't Christians worship Confucius who said this stuff before Jesus? The answer is Confucius didn't threaten and blackmail people with fire and perpetual torture if they don't listen to his sayings.
Indeed when you look at people who came up with Jesus myth you see how they invented it just like Ron Hubbard invented Scientology. That they took the corny motifs from Greek and other mythologies and this well known stuff and sayings of morality and made it into business. Religious business, that is. It's so much like when you listen Harlan Ellison how Ron Hubbard made Scientology: he wanted to make a lot of money and discovered the best way is to invent religion. Since he was SF writer he hang around in those circles and they told him maybe he could use orgon energy, angrams (something like forgotten memory) and so on.
Here's the vid, the story about Scientology starts after 6th minute.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
