Quote:Yes Crunchy.
You certainly are wrong.
Nope. If you could read for comprehension you would realize that the only thing I was wrong about was your just being dumb as you are disingenuous as well. In fact you've proven me correct yet again by trying to twist my words. So I fixed it for you.
"So I was wrong. You're not just dumb you are disingenuous as well."
Quote:You accuse me to avoid to answer your questions when in fact I already answered them.
First I already explained how there is only one consciousness but as an iceberg you can only see the top
of it and if you want to see the lot you got to go down and bring the part below above and the best way to do this is by engaging in a scientific system such as the intuitional science.
No, you did not "explain" that. You have not explained anything at all. All you've done is made unsupported statements. If you want to support those statements you would need some sort of methodological approach to prove what you think is correct. Got any ideas on what that approach might be called Einstein?
Quote:Yoga is intuitional science but shouldn't be confused with what these days is yoga or yoga exercises only.
I also said that the physical science is good.
I never said that is bad but I said that intuitional science is even better as it is given by human beings that already acquired human emancipation.
And I never said that intuition was bad... but I did EXPLAIN that intuition is the first step in the scientific process. I showed you two charts of that process and step one is get an idea.
However, as the dishonest person that you are, you ignored that and went off on a philosophical tangent instead of just admitting that you had made a mistake.
Quote:Now let us come to the point that by the way I already did deal with but you missed.
WHY YOGA OR INTUITIONAL PRACTICE IS BETTER THAN THE NORMAL PHYSICAL SCIENCE?
It isn't better, it's a part of. You can deny this all you want but it won't change the truth. No matter what insight you get from meditation you will have to go through a process to get that insight out to the world and have it verified. If you now want to claim your insight is only meant to be self reflective (because you're a liar), then it is personal and has nothing to do with other people. Science is about sharing and growing knowledge.
Quote:The normal scientific process miss something that is why not only takes ages and ages from life to life
to more lives needed but by missing something it will never get to the final point or to human emancipation while yoga being a complete system will.
So what physical science miss?
It miss the spiritual side of ourselves.
As the name say ........PHYSICAL..........is obvious that can not deal with the spiritual aspect.
Why the spiritual aspect is important?
If you only would understand how the human mind works you wouldn't have to ask this question.
Also here I already explained that material-physical pleasures are unable to give permanent satisfaction
and this is proven by the fact that people have to go back again and again to the same pleasures in order to get satisfied once again.
Yoga on the other hand cover the spiritual aspect as well that is why it is a complete system unlike the physical science.![]()
Even if I accept your woo-woo nonsense and accepted your lies that you have already explained things that you did not ever explain, You yourself have just admitted that yoga can tell us nothing about the questions you first posed. You have just sequestered yoga to the fantasy world of "spirituality". So once again, you've shot yourself in the foot.
I think we need a recap of your dishonesty in this conversation.
You started by asking questions about the physical universe and I showed you the scientific method and explained to you why it has been and is the best method of trying to resolve such questions.
You then said that Intuition was better than the scientific method giving no reasons whatsoever.
I explained to you that you can certainly use intuition in step one of the scientific method.
THIS IS WHERE YOU BEGAN YOUR DISHONEST OBFUSCATION
Instead of addressing either your original questions or my reply concerning intuition and the scientific method you brought up Einstein as an example of intuition forgetting completely that Einstein used the scientific method (with his intuitive reasoning as the starting point.. step one.) to bring relativity to the world.
I pointed this out to you and all you did was go meta. You ignored the entire conversation to that point and went off on a tangent about discovering who we really are. This is a slimy tactic of derailing the conversation because you knew you had no honest rebuttal.
You're a liar Rik. A dishonest person who cannot carry on a straightforward conversation without resorting to cheap tactics like derailing the conversation when it isn't going your way.
You are a disgrace to the yoga community.
If god was real he wouldn't need middle men to explain his wants or do his bidding.