(May 7, 2017 at 6:18 am)hopey Wrote:(May 7, 2017 at 6:06 am)Cyberman Wrote: I see lots of "I believe" up there, but not even an attempt at "I can demonstrate" or "I have evidence". Work on that first, then we can talk about what your genie can do for me.
I actually have plenty of personal evidence, evidences that God has shown me. I know, not just believe. I believe if you are open God can show you Himself too.
Problem is, there are many people of other religions that say the same kinds of things.
We have several Muslims on this forum that have had some sort of personal experience with a different god than you have.
And here I am, completely without any sort of god beliefs, wondering how I can go about finding out who among all different theists, who is right.
Or even more to the point, how do I go about discerning if any of you are.
How do I know if your 'personal evidence' isn't just you misinterpreting some completely natural, and mundane, brain state?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.