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The Origin of the Universe
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RE: The Origin of the Universe
(May 5, 2009 at 1:13 am)WebChris Wrote: So - an atheist forum eh?
Sounds like a club for after college and after market intellectuals. But anyway - here goes:
Are we still the biochemical descendant "accidents" of the universe belching the next scientist's limited point-of-view?

If by "accident" you mean humanity was not planned, then yes. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that any kind of higher being planned for humanity to exist, and in the absence of such evidence it is ridiculous to assume that any did.


(May 5, 2009 at 1:13 am)WebChris Wrote: Not everything is a convenient accident! Especially at the chemical and subatomic level! The earth is such a beautiful accident:

By this I assume you are referring to apparent fine-tuning of physical constants to accomodate life.
However, you fail to consider that life or intelligence could possibly exist in a vastly different universe, assuming that this set-up is the only one that could possibly lead to the evolution of life.
There are actually many inconvenient accidents, for example, in the human eye, the blood vessels run in front of the retina, causing small blind spots that your brain has to "cover-up" with information from the surrounding areas.
If your god designed this, he's an idiot.

(May 5, 2009 at 1:13 am)WebChris Wrote: From microwaves to atomic bombs, I'm sure you are very confident in the scientific community (or atheist community for that matter)!
Oh right, i must have missed the part in the bible where mr jeezus describes how to sustain a uranium chain reaction...


Science gathers evidence and comes to conclusions based on that evidence.
Religion knows it's conclusion and flounders around looking for evidence that might be interpreted as supporting it's conclusion. Shame it has so much trouble finding any Wink

(May 5, 2009 at 1:13 am)WebChris Wrote: Can we admit for once, that no matter how many science books we read - that there are things - we know nothing about -! or we just don’t have enough facts to make the theoretical oatmeal stick! - some DESIGNS just can't be unraveled in a few hundred human lifetimes, be it peeking through keyholes or watching ameobas washing their behinds under microscopes!
If anyone wants to give an answer to this - step up!

Of course, that we don't know everything is what makes science so interesting and fun!
Galileo was a man of science oppressed by the irrational and superstitious. Today, he is used by the irrational and superstitious who claim they are being oppressed by science - Mark Crislip
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Messages In This Thread
The Origin of the Universe - by WebChris - May 5, 2009 at 1:13 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Darwinian - May 5, 2009 at 2:03 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Kyuuketsuki - May 5, 2009 at 2:05 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by leo-rcc - May 5, 2009 at 3:31 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Edwardo Piet - May 5, 2009 at 10:22 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Giff - May 5, 2009 at 11:02 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Edwardo Piet - May 5, 2009 at 12:07 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Giff - May 6, 2009 at 4:22 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Edwardo Piet - May 6, 2009 at 10:24 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Giff - May 6, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by g-mark - May 5, 2009 at 11:36 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by lilphil1989 - May 5, 2009 at 12:36 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by g-mark - May 5, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Tiberius - May 5, 2009 at 5:01 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by WebChris - May 6, 2009 at 3:31 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Kyuuketsuki - May 6, 2009 at 3:33 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by lilphil1989 - May 6, 2009 at 5:33 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by WebChris - May 6, 2009 at 4:27 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by leo-rcc - May 6, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Kyuuketsuki - May 6, 2009 at 5:40 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Giff - May 6, 2009 at 4:29 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Tiberius - May 6, 2009 at 5:12 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Demonaura - May 6, 2009 at 11:43 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Edwardo Piet - May 6, 2009 at 4:16 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by WebChris - May 6, 2009 at 7:43 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Giff - May 7, 2009 at 4:12 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by lilphil1989 - May 7, 2009 at 5:19 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Tiberius - May 7, 2009 at 8:01 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by WebChris - May 8, 2009 at 7:30 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by lilphil1989 - May 9, 2009 at 9:12 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Edwardo Piet - May 7, 2009 at 8:18 pm
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by Tiberius - May 9, 2009 at 9:35 am
RE: The Origin of the Universe - by lilphil1989 - May 9, 2009 at 10:04 am



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