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Hello!
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RE: Hello!
(July 23, 2011 at 1:10 am)FaithNoMore Wrote:
(July 23, 2011 at 12:33 am)TheCarlisle Wrote: We can't possibly understand what or how He thinks...

Hmm...then why does the bible see fit to speculate on this over and over again? Because you only use this argument to refute what atheists have to say when proving god is contradictory, but when it comes to your religion and dictating others' lives, you claim to know the will of god. You love to say what god thinks all of the time, but when you are shown that god's qualities are ludicrous, you then claim his thoughts are unknowable.

The Bible is God's word. Nowhere does it say, "The will of God is..." But rather, it says that God loves us, hates sin, and wants us all to go to heaven.
What we don't know about God is quite a bit. For example:
Why did God create free will?
Why did God even create us?
If someone answers those, they are just speculating. If someone asked why did God choose Moses to lead the Exodus, then the answer's pretty clear.
(July 23, 2011 at 6:06 am)Ace Otana Wrote:
Quote:God created free will. We send ourselves to hell.

Wrong, I'll point out why. God supposedly created us and he knew what was going to happen and why, because he designed it that way. So ultimately, it's his fault.
Say I designed a paper airplane to perfectly fly across the room and land on a table. Now say I gave it a mind and I being all knowing, I know it will choose not to land on the table like I wanted. It would be my fault, I designed it that way. Also I'm all knowing, so I can't blame anyone else but myself. Same with your god, if he creates us to behave a certain way, it's ultimately his fault.
Here's another way of looking at it. Say I created an RC with an artificial mind, now I gave it weapons and the ability to use them or not. Now say it flew off and killed someone. Who would you blame? Me, the one who designed and built it, or the RC for which was only doing what I gave it the ability to do? Me being all knowing makes it worse, because I knew it would and I could of changed it's design.

Quote:We can't possibly understand what or how He thinks, so how dare you judge Him.

I will judge him how I see fit. If I think he's an immature dictator who's ego is bigger than himself, based on what I know, I'll pass judgement. Your god is incompetent and evil. He is also a dictator, hateful, self loving bastard.

Quote:That last sentence has sealed your fate; you've made the unpardonable sin.Confusedhock:
Here watch this....god! Your a complete faggot! Jebus was a a compulsive liar and deceiver who got what he deserved.

Sin, god, hell. All these things mean nothing to me. Because they're just concepts. Unproven baseless assertions. The whole thing is a complete joke.
All these divine laws and religious rules do not apply to me. None of them apply to me. I am not sinful, because sin is just a concept. I won't be going to hell, because it is only a concept, and god can't do fuck all to me, because he is also just a concept. Tongue
I am more powerful than your god, because unlike him, I actually exist.

I want to clarify that evil cannot come from God. Lucifer rebelled and created evil, God only created the potential to do so.
So, according to you logic, a man who was raised a little gentleman and left the house as one decides to kill someone is perfectly innocent? Since the parents brought him into the world and ultimately given him free will by doing so, they are guilty of first degree murder. That makes no sense.
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Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 2:15 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 19, 2011 at 2:18 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 2:50 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: Hello! - by Cinjin - July 19, 2011 at 3:05 pm
RE: Hello! - by BloodyHeretic - July 19, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: Hello! - by Anomalocaris - July 19, 2011 at 3:54 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 5:04 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 19, 2011 at 3:58 pm
RE: Hello! - by Kayenneh - July 19, 2011 at 2:21 am
RE: Hello! - by Cinjin - July 19, 2011 at 2:24 am
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 2:30 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 19, 2011 at 4:30 am
RE: Hello! - by Autumnlicious - July 19, 2011 at 2:57 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: Hello! - by Paul the Human - July 19, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 19, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 20, 2011 at 12:14 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 19, 2011 at 3:11 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 6:41 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 19, 2011 at 8:21 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 1:35 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 20, 2011 at 11:37 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2011 at 12:40 pm
RE: Hello! - by edk - July 20, 2011 at 1:06 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 20, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 20, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 20, 2011 at 6:00 pm
RE: Hello! - by Paul the Human - July 20, 2011 at 6:05 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 20, 2011 at 6:16 pm
RE: Hello! - by fr0d0 - July 20, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: Hello! - by Autumnlicious - July 20, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2011 at 6:37 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 7:33 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 20, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: Hello! - by Autumnlicious - July 20, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:16 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:26 am
RE: Hello! - by Darwinian - July 21, 2011 at 11:27 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:32 am
RE: Hello! - by Darwinian - July 21, 2011 at 11:36 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:37 am
RE: Hello! - by Darwinian - July 21, 2011 at 11:39 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 11:30 am
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 8:03 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 11:39 am
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 21, 2011 at 11:55 am
RE: Hello! - by edk - July 21, 2011 at 11:59 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 21, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 21, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 21, 2011 at 4:19 pm
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 21, 2011 at 5:26 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 21, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 22, 2011 at 12:14 am
RE: Hello! - by edk - July 22, 2011 at 12:48 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 22, 2011 at 10:55 am
RE: Hello! - by edk - July 22, 2011 at 11:16 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 12:33 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 23, 2011 at 1:10 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 9:58 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 10:18 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 11:14 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 11:22 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 11:41 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 12:11 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 12:18 pm
RE: Hello! - by Napoléon - July 23, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 9:37 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2011 at 6:26 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 23, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: Hello! - by Epimethean - July 23, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 23, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 23, 2011 at 6:06 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 22, 2011 at 2:29 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 21, 2011 at 6:37 pm
RE: Hello! - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: Hello! - by fr0d0 - July 22, 2011 at 2:33 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 22, 2011 at 8:32 am
RE: Hello! - by Faith No More - July 22, 2011 at 2:36 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2011 at 8:13 am
RE: Hello! - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 22, 2011 at 11:07 am
RE: Hello! - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 11:08 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2011 at 12:25 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 23, 2011 at 2:25 pm
RE: Hello! - by Paul the Human - July 23, 2011 at 2:41 pm
RE: Hello! - by kriskiran - July 23, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Hello! - by bozo - July 23, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: Hello! - by kriskiran - July 23, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2011 at 3:35 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 24, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 24, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 1:41 am
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 6:43 pm
RE: Hello! - by TheCarlisle - July 24, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: Hello! - by ElDinero - July 24, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: Hello! - by The Grand Nudger - July 24, 2011 at 7:35 pm
RE: Hello! - by Cinjin - July 25, 2011 at 1:51 am
RE: Hello! - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 2:26 am
RE: Hello! - by Cinjin - July 25, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 2:33 am
RE: Hello! - by bozo - July 25, 2011 at 5:22 am
RE: Hello! - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 3:12 pm

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