RE: A Question From Atheists
June 23, 2017 at 8:02 pm
(This post was last modified: June 23, 2017 at 8:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 23, 2017 at 5:56 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(June 23, 2017 at 3:52 pm)nosferatu323 Wrote: A common misunderstanding in a theist/atheists conversation is that the theist ones always intend to "convert" the atheist ones or vice-versa. This was never my intention. I'm not intending to prove to you that god exists or your should believe in god. I wanted to demonstrate that the proposition:
"I don't believe in any gods"
Is nonsensical from a logical perspective. Since when we investigate the word "god" we come across the cases where this proposition leads to clear fallacies.
I made the mistake of talking about my personal beliefs in several occasions which might have been mis-leading for some that I'm trying to justify my own belief, which is not the case. I'm sorry about that.
No I'm not intending to prove that. I'm sorry if my lack of focus on the main topic made you to believe that I'm intending to prove that. I actually think it's logically absurd to try to "prove" such a belief.
Not really. "I don't believe in any gods" doesn't mean "I disbelieve all possible definitions of god." It means somebody doesn't have any image or definition of "god" which they think represents fact.
If you say God is John Lennon, then I'd say I believe in God, but it's a pretty poor definition.
Saying "God is the Universe" is also a poor definition. You'd have to show that the Universe has at least some of the characteristics normally associated with God-- like consciousness, intent, etc. Otherwise, there's very little importance to the God idea, since we are perfectly happy living in, and studying scientifically, the Universe.
Pantheists -do- show that, or at least attempt to show that. This one is either not a pantheist™( that's my money, for what it's worth)...or is a really..really shitty pantheist.
/ shrugs
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