RE: Is atheism self-contradictory ?
June 25, 2017 at 1:48 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2017 at 1:52 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 25, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Parsim0ny Wrote:If finding inconsistencies with current knowledge rules out a book as being the word of god...then the Quran is not the word of god.(June 25, 2017 at 1:27 pm)Cyberman Wrote: That's the claim. Now it's down to you to support it and make your case.
Take any other 1400 years old book talking about nature and the universe, you'll immediately discover hundreds of inconsistencies with the current state of knowledge. And therefore it is safe to assume that it cannot be the word of God.
Quote:The Qur'an contains hundreds of verses talking about the observable universe and none of them - unless you have one - seems to be obviously wrong or contradicting basic modern science facts, this is already impossible to achieve by someone who lived more than thousand years ago.You mean like the time that the ghostwriters...cribbing galen word for word, got it wrong exactly where galen got it wrong? Or was that just an unhappy coincidence?
Quote:For example in chapter 21 verse 30 we can read "Do the disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were one mass, and We tore them apart?" . If the universe turned out to be eternal, this verse will simply be FALSE. But current physics tells us that all the universe was indeed one mass and was torn apart in an incredibly short amount of time.Cool story. Not sure why you think that's physics, though.
Quote:How can anyone from the 7th century come up with anything even remotely close to our current knowledge of the universe ?You mean, other than copying similar religious narratives...going back much further than the 7th century, just like we're informed was the case with mo...in the quran?
In any case, plenty of people came up with plenty of shit "close" to our current klnowledge of the universe. Why wouldn;t they? They have eyes, they have brains, they were fully modern human beings just like you and I. If some pagan nitwit somewhere didn't need his pagan gods help to figure out some natural truth....then why would Mo need it, or anyone, really...and if there;s just no way - without a gods help...well, you have an immense body of pagan science to reconcile with your beliefs, a good portion of it -in- your magic book.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!