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(June 28, 2017 at 12:42 am)Minimalist Wrote: So what 'morality' do you assert that enables you to suggest that a woman you do not even know should or should not have a child that she does not want and probably cannot afford?

What morality do I assert that you should or should not eat meat? I have what I feel is a sound moral arguement for being a vegetarian and would be happy to try to convince you if you want. Just like that I feel I have a sound moral arguement (2 seperate ones actually) that lead to conclusion that in most situations (and exceptions are built into the framework of the arguement, not post-hoc or ad-hoc) a woman has a moral obligation to the fetus, her desire to want it or not is independent of that. That's what a moral arguement is.
If you are asking me what justification do I have to dicated to a woman that she must complete her pregnancy (or conversely that she must have an abortion as folks in China can tell you), I would say none, because morality is not an arguement for compulsion. That is what the law is for. I am not, nor have I, advocated for a legal arguement restricting abortion. That is the role of the government as a reflection of the society. I am a member of the society but not of the government.
However, if I have a sound arguement that convinces a woman not to have an abortion and she convinces some one else and so on then the law doesn't really matter does it?
Again this is the difference between what I believe morality is (what we should do) and legality (what we must or must not do). Laws can be moral or immoral and morality can be legal or illegal.

@ Minimalist
I could be wrong, but the tone that I percieve is that you are attacking the arguement without hearing due to the conclusion ( my perception is based on your inclusion of words that seem to be meant to trigger emotional responses rather than logical ones as I state I am trying to promote : "you do not even know should or should not have a child that she does not want and probably cannot afford.") Again, I will be forthwright and say this is my perception of your statement, but I cannot say for certainity that it is your intent.
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Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 26, 2017 at 10:33 pm
RE: Hello - by The Valkyrie - June 26, 2017 at 10:47 pm
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RE: Hello - by The Valkyrie - June 26, 2017 at 11:20 pm
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RE: Hello - by Brian37 - June 27, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 27, 2017 at 9:35 pm
RE: Hello - by Minimalist - June 27, 2017 at 9:53 pm
RE: Hello - by ignoramus - June 27, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 28, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: Hello - by ignoramus - June 28, 2017 at 12:23 am
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 28, 2017 at 12:41 am
RE: Hello - by Minimalist - June 28, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 28, 2017 at 12:49 am
RE: Hello - by ignoramus - June 28, 2017 at 1:06 am
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 28, 2017 at 1:10 am
RE: Hello - by LastPoet - June 28, 2017 at 8:20 am
RE: Hello - by ignoramus - June 28, 2017 at 1:13 am
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 28, 2017 at 1:18 am
RE: Hello - by Minimalist - June 28, 2017 at 2:04 am
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 28, 2017 at 5:48 pm
RE: Hello - by Minimalist - June 28, 2017 at 6:46 pm
RE: Hello - by Whateverist - June 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 28, 2017 at 9:22 pm
RE: Hello - by ignoramus - June 28, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 29, 2017 at 10:58 pm
RE: Hello - by Keintucky - June 28, 2017 at 11:27 pm
RE: Hello - by ignoramus - June 29, 2017 at 11:26 pm
RE: Hello - by The Valkyrie - June 29, 2017 at 11:37 pm
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - June 29, 2017 at 11:38 pm
RE: Hello - by ignoramus - June 30, 2017 at 12:03 am
RE: Hello - by DogmaticDownSouth - July 2, 2017 at 9:59 pm
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