(July 1, 2017 at 8:22 pm)Astonished Wrote:nd ultimately Ad Hoc And even more arbitrary . Hell even appealing to natures does not imply specific relations . Especially when one can assert otherwise. Even if you could relate it to things in reality there still is the question of justifying it every bit as much as the atheist. This ultimately fails.(July 1, 2017 at 7:55 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Indeed it's arbitrary as fudge and ultimately his whole case is a giant Tu quoque. And it's worst a certain elements like logic if objective and external cannot rely on god. And even characteristics like omniscience are ultimately circular . To a point where I could simply declare myself all knowing .
I mean, it's like when someone says, "I couldn't get up out of bed in the morning without god", and yet if you asked what motivates god to do the same, there either is no answer or god doesn't need a reason. Well fuck-a-doodle-doo, what do you know, doesn't seem like that is a necessary ingredient.
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