RE: What is required for a human organism to be considered a rights bearer?
July 4, 2017 at 10:57 pm
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2017 at 11:03 pm by DogmaticDownSouth.)
(July 4, 2017 at 10:23 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: As for whether or not you're a troll, I think you're a polite one. But who looks for help with these sorts of ethical issues online in a forum they've never posted in before, where they know no one? Why would you value any opinion here at all, given that you know no one and no one knows you?
Thanks for the kind reply here, I torched you on another thread because you questioned my honesty.
I don't take kindly to that
I try to be polite and will continue to if treated that way, but when my integrity is impugned, I tend to lash out, You can only take me at my word, but I would ask, based on my questions and responses, what would you say that I have brought up that would make me a troll?
I value opinoins because people have them. Can I only ask for opinions of people I know?
Have you even read my introduction page? I posted my motives clearly there and would refer you to it.
But just becuase you don't understand or didn't bother to find out does not give you cause or right question my integrity. If my actions or words lead to that conclusion, then I will own that, but I would then ask you to specify what action or words did so.
Thanks
(July 4, 2017 at 10:16 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(July 4, 2017 at 9:12 pm)DogmaticDownSouth Wrote: Embryo is a STAGE of the human organism, not a SEPARATE entity.
Therefor if an embryo or a fetus does not in your opinioin bear human rights then what is necessary to bear these rights and why?
Because the rights of an actual living human trump the rights of a potential human.
And you're absolutely correct: a fetus is not a separate entity. Indeed, it is embedded in a woman, and draws nutrients from her own metabolism, and can perhaps kill her if the pregnancy does not go right. And it cannot live outside her. Why would you give priority to such a being, blind in its outlook, incapable of holding much less expressing an opinion on even its own life, over the life of the adult woman carrying it -- unless you just want to make sure the wimmenfolk are kept in line?
I'll take you seriously about "human rights" when you start talking about the human rights of an adult woman and her right to own her own body.
I have not asked a question about in relation to anyone else, these are suppositions and leaps that you are making, not me. I only ask what is required to be considerd a bearer of human rights? What part of that questions states that one takes precidence over another?