(July 25, 2011 at 10:49 pm)Hurny Wrote: Hey guys,
well I had some pretty lengthy and in depth discussions with this guy today but I don't know that I'll have time to post much tonight. I'll get back on as soon as I can with more thoughts and questions. thanks, talk to you later
Well Hurny seems that these guys have given it their best shot and come up short. Why are you so determined to prove this guy wrong, when what you should be doing is looking for the truth. I believe that between you and others on this site not having any positive refutation of his arguements that you can see that he is correct in what he has said. Sometimes we have to swallow our pride and see the truth, believe me I know from experience. I know this is not the help you were looking for, I do believe that it could be the help you need.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.