(July 10, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(July 10, 2017 at 3:36 pm)JackRussell Wrote: Ok, fine, but why should any rational person accept this too. Wonder and the numinous as experiential can be understood perfectly naturally as well.
Rational people accept a great many things.....plenty of which aren't rational. We have one in thread who feels what they feel. There's no attempt to rationalize it, or claim that it's rational. Ultimately there may be rational reasons for such a feeling but that doesn;t mean that the feeling, itself, is rational. We do this all the time - get things right fro the wrong reasons, or wrong for the right reasons. Sure, some underlying process might conform to a standard of rationality but it doesn't mean that the specifics of whatever it is that is believed are, themselves, rational.
While we can, for example, say that the numinous has a rational explantion...who is using whatever that explanation is in their experience of it? Surely not OP. Often enough, reason-as-employed by human beings is a happy or unhappy accident...and, for some, it's both all at once. I'd rather not know that my children are skilled manipulators. I -do- know that they are, but I still can't bring myself to feel that way about them when I look in their wittle faces.
Did man go to the moon? Can that be evidenced? That was numinous to me , we stepped toward the stars, but irrational fools disbelieve this. Were does one draw the line?