RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
July 13, 2017 at 10:17 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2017 at 10:30 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 13, 2017 at 10:12 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Ok...so we established (I think) that you are not saying.... what is immoral causes harm nor that which causes harm is immoral."We", and by "we" I mean "I' established what I needed to establish without your assistance and before you ever took issue.
Quote:How is it, that you equate the two...(let alone the charge that I do as well)? I'm confused, because you have answered a number of times with "because it causes harm".Because you do, and cannot faithfully recount either your faith or my objective morality without parroting -my- propositions. Regardless of whether or not -you- acknowledge that or even know that you do.
Quote:Perhaps you should stop arguing like a 12 year old, and think through these things, and express your self more fully. Just my subjective opinion. If I'm incorrectly representing you, tell me what is wrong. I'm no more impressed by you puffing yourself up, then I am the 12 yr old.-says the man who, purportedly...smashed his phone in anger and then asked whether or not he had done a moral wrong......?
Get wrecked, nub.
Look, man...if you can abandon this compulsive need to disagree where we don;t even disagree - then we can have an adult conversation. It's possible. I've done it before (and I'll do it again). You and I both propose an objective morality with a fundamental axiom of harm..and where you and I do not agree on what -is- harmful...we...at least, agree on that. Or, we can game back and forth until you finally realize that I was gifted with not only the better gamer genes, but the better gamer stamina - and actively worked for the better gamer discipline. I can wait, essentially, forever, to punish you for mistakes. I'm patient like that. How do you want this to play out?
Is sin not harm? Is it wrong because it is sin, or is it sin because it is harmful? Is there some difference, in your estimation...between the two? Is there harmless sin? ......careful.........
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