The problems outline here have less to do with "Islamification" and more to do with the failings of multiculturalism.
The solution to the problem is to try and understand our Muslim brothers; to listen to them, explain our opinions, and try to integrate them with the rest of society; compromising some of our values for some of theirs. We let them worship where they want; wear what they want, and say what they want, but we demand from them the same kind of respect. Not to go over the top when free speech is implemented at the behest of their religion, not to get angry when someone insults Islam, but instead of try to understand the motives of the person who did so.
(July 26, 2011 at 4:58 am)Glassfish Wrote: world Islamifacation is a serious problem and now that Muslims are spreading to Europe they are also spreading to the west. in a few decades the minority may become the majority especially with Muslims high fraternity rates.So what? Unless you plan on converting your entire family to Islam then you know some people who aren't going to be swayed by "majority" opinion. The same applies for the rest of us.
Quote:the worst part is political correctness especially in Britain it is a joke how politicians bend over backward to make sure Muslims are not offended and how we are expected to be racially tolerant to the least tolerant group of people in the world.That, I agree, is wrong. People don't have a right not to be offended. However, I don't think we are expected to be racially tolerant...after all, Islam is not a race of people, it is a religion. Bringing race into it just makes me suspicious of your real intentions when creating this thread.
Quote:and now the US are going to let the Muslims build the ground zero mosque which will encourage the Islamifacation of the united states as will stupid gutless politicians who bend over for the muslimsWell yes, because a mosque is a place of worship, and in a free society we don't discriminate on where people can build them, or what religion people subscribe to. You do realise this "ground zero" mosque is 2 blocks away from ground zero right? It's also a community centre built by people who want to explain their faith to non-believers rather than force it down their throats by preaching...a bit like this place in that respect.
Quote:sometimes enough is enough and a group of people cannot be as demanding as theseAs far as I can tell, all they've demanded is a little respect; something most people demand at least once in a while. Whilst I agree with you that getting upset over portrayals of prophets is a bit over the top, especially in a free society, the fact that non-muslims got upset and offended over a community centre is equally ridiculous.
Quote:what do you guys think how do we solve this problem?The problem isn't as big as you say. The problem itself lies with multiculturalism. Instead of trying to make different cultures live together, cultures need to merge, or at least, understand each other.
is the problem as big as i say?
The solution to the problem is to try and understand our Muslim brothers; to listen to them, explain our opinions, and try to integrate them with the rest of society; compromising some of our values for some of theirs. We let them worship where they want; wear what they want, and say what they want, but we demand from them the same kind of respect. Not to go over the top when free speech is implemented at the behest of their religion, not to get angry when someone insults Islam, but instead of try to understand the motives of the person who did so.