RE: Am I nuts? I like Jesus..:)
July 26, 2017 at 9:17 am
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2017 at 9:24 am by Mister Agenda.)
vorlon13 Wrote:Mister Agenda Wrote:Telling you that we don't have a problem with Jesus as a person IS a straight answer. Either he's made-up and all of his words are really someone else's, or he's real and we don't know which words attributed to him are his and which were put in his mouth by writers. Either way, we have no reason to be mad at Jesus as a person, if he was a person. Some people's conception of Jesus, and some of the people who claim to represent him, on the other hand, don't make him look too good. Maybe Jesus was an asshole, but we can't KNOW if he was an asshole. Maybe he was the most lovely person in the middle east in the 1st century, but we can't KNOW that either, I'm afraid.
Whoever first told the Parable of the Good Samaritan, I like it. Whoever told the parable about beating slaves, I don't like it. I don't know if either or both came from a 1st century rabbi named Yeshua who got in trouble with the Romans. Crucifixion is a hard way to go that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
Asimov came up with this and I agree:
Why wouldn't a "good" Samaritan do as described in the parable?
Think about that for a second, and then realize Jesus never used the word "good'. It's on the header for the page, but no one claims Jesus wrote those.
Now read the parable again, and insert the word "ordinary" before each use of Samaritan. It's a different parable now, isn't it? And since Jesus didn't use the word "good", an ordinary Samaritan is what He had in mind.
Why does virtually every one get the wrong meaning from that parable ??
Inertia, peer pressure, not bothering to read the damn book again ??????
The parable is in response to the question 'who are our neighbors?', that is, who should we treat like a neighbor. The answer is that we should treat anyone who needs our help like a neighbor.
What am I missing?
Knock, knock.
Who's there?
Jesus.
What do you want, Jesus?
I want you to let me in.
Why?
So I can save you.
Save me from what?
From what I'm going to do to you if you don't let me in.
Dropship Wrote:Mister Agenda Wrote:Telling you that we don't have a problem with Jesus as a person IS a straight answer. Either he's made-up and all of his words are really someone else's, or he's real and we don't know which words attributed to him are his and which were put in his mouth by writers..
Astonished quote- he's basically like a really bad villain in one of my books, movies or video games; I hate the character but I know he never existed.
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Okay guys let's try a different tack and assume Jesus was either real or nor real. In either case, what was it he said that atheists don't like?
Oh my goodness, different atheists have different opinions! It's almost like we don't have anything in common but that one thing we don't believe.
I already gave you a list of iffy 'Jesus quotes'...that you did not respond to. Why do you ask questions you've already gotten an answer on?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.