RE: World Islamifacation
July 28, 2011 at 10:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2011 at 10:47 pm by fr0d0.)
(July 27, 2011 at 3:46 pm)Rayaan Wrote:Except for this bit:(July 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Mohammed said 'submit'. He meant you tho'.Yeah, but he never said "kill them if they don't submit." See this: The Tolerance of the Prophet towards Other Religions
"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful" (Sura at Tawba 9:5).
Where he clearly says slay the pagans (people of other religions) unless they become Muslim.
A classical interpretation by Ismail Ibn Kathir (A.D. 1301–1373 - a Muslim muhaddith, Faqih, historian, and commentator): Do not wait until you find them. Rather, seek and besiege them in their areas and forts, gather intelligence about them in the various roads and fairways so that what is made wide looks ever smaller to them. This way, they will have no choice, but to die or embrace Islam.
Mohammed says: all will submit to Allah. Jesus says: you have a choice.
I think Mohhamed knew the power of a peaceful conqueror, as demonstrated by the Christian example, and used that as another way to gain power. You shouldn't discount his bloody destruction before that and try to say that's all he was tho', because that would be untrue.