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World Islamifacation
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RE: World Islamifacation
(July 27, 2011 at 3:46 pm)Rayaan Wrote:
(July 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Mohammed said 'submit'. He meant you tho'.
Yeah, but he never said "kill them if they don't submit." See this: The Tolerance of the Prophet towards Other Religions
Except for this bit:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful" (Sura at Tawba 9:5).

Where he clearly says slay the pagans (people of other religions) unless they become Muslim.

A classical interpretation by Ismail Ibn Kathir (A.D. 1301–1373 - a Muslim muhaddith, Faqih, historian, and commentator): Do not wait until you find them. Rather, seek and besiege them in their areas and forts, gather intelligence about them in the various roads and fairways so that what is made wide looks ever smaller to them. This way, they will have no choice, but to die or embrace Islam.

Mohammed says: all will submit to Allah. Jesus says: you have a choice.

I think Mohhamed knew the power of a peaceful conqueror, as demonstrated by the Christian example, and used that as another way to gain power. You shouldn't discount his bloody destruction before that and try to say that's all he was tho', because that would be untrue.
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Messages In This Thread
World Islamifacation - by Glassfish - July 26, 2011 at 4:58 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Justtristo - July 26, 2011 at 8:32 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Napoléon - July 26, 2011 at 10:02 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by DeistPaladin - July 26, 2011 at 11:05 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Anomalocaris - July 26, 2011 at 12:53 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Napoléon - July 26, 2011 at 12:54 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Anomalocaris - July 26, 2011 at 12:58 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Sciwoman - July 26, 2011 at 1:06 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Anomalocaris - July 26, 2011 at 1:20 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Napoléon - July 26, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by DeistPaladin - July 26, 2011 at 1:16 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Justtristo - July 27, 2011 at 6:42 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Anomalocaris - July 27, 2011 at 4:03 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Rayaan - July 27, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by bozo - July 27, 2011 at 5:59 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Justtristo - July 27, 2011 at 6:31 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Justtristo - July 27, 2011 at 6:48 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2011 at 1:08 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by bozo - July 26, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Glassfish - July 27, 2011 at 2:19 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Minimalist - July 26, 2011 at 4:11 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by DeistPaladin - July 26, 2011 at 4:27 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Violet - July 26, 2011 at 11:37 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Tiberius - July 27, 2011 at 4:47 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Napoléon - July 27, 2011 at 8:16 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by downbeatplumb - July 27, 2011 at 1:41 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Napoléon - July 27, 2011 at 1:57 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Rayaan - July 27, 2011 at 3:46 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by fr0d0 - July 28, 2011 at 10:42 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by DeistPaladin - July 27, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Napoléon - July 27, 2011 at 3:47 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 6:47 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by fr0d0 - July 28, 2011 at 2:26 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Shell B - July 29, 2011 at 1:33 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2011 at 2:27 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Shell B - July 29, 2011 at 12:26 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2011 at 1:06 pm
RE: World Islamifacation - by Shell B - July 30, 2011 at 1:50 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Rayaan - July 30, 2011 at 2:12 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by fr0d0 - July 30, 2011 at 5:58 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 2:38 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Faith No More - July 30, 2011 at 5:40 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Anymouse - July 30, 2011 at 6:09 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2011 at 8:43 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by Shell B - July 30, 2011 at 11:25 am
RE: World Islamifacation - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2011 at 11:27 am



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