(July 27, 2017 at 12:04 am)Astonished Wrote: And what kind of god is so stupid as to set the world up in such a way, and design our minds, to rely on empirical data, barring the brain trauma caused by childhood indoctrination? Or so impotent that it can't make the evidence point to its existence? That's not the kind of god worth worshiping or even discussing.
Not that I would even buy Jefferson's deism, but he is about as close as I would come in tolerating such a concept, "Question with boldness even the existence of a God. For if there be one, surely he would pay more homage to reason than to that of blindfolded fear."
Of course I don't even buy this idea, but it does reflect our modern concept of consent of the governed and the ability to challenge authority. My brain belongs to nobody.