To our Muslim/Christian members & all faiths....

[Catholic_Lady]

Religion and science are 2 different fields, and need not be in conflict with each other, per se. Unless your religious doctrine teaches something that directly contradicts a proven scientific fact (like that the earth is 6000 years old or whatever), there's no reason why the 2 need to be mutually exclusive. We had science class in my catholic grade school, and we learned about space, evolution, the big bang, and dinosaurs. And then we had religion class where we'd learn about religious history and catholic doctrines. It never once crossed my mind for there to be an inherent issue between the 2 subjects. It was no diffetent than learning how to add in math class, and then learning how to read in english class. Just 2 different fields.

I did start watching the show last night when I got home from my friends house. It's very good. Thanks for posting it brian. I got to almost half way before turning in to go to bed because it was late. I will finish watching tonight if I don't stay out too late.

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I think most theists in the modern world accept evolution over creationism. Or at least intelligent design. But I think creationists are in the minority.

Still not the point. 

Religion does not propagate through neutral objective testing and falsification with control groups and independent peer review. It propagates mostly through being handed down by parents to youth. It is sold on appeal to emotion and appeal to tradition, neither of which are independent evidence, but social tropes the individual lives in.

Maybe in the west in more educated countries sure. But even China and Japan have their own religious superstitions and mythologies that when put under the scrutiny of independent skepticism fall apart when under the microscope.

It does not matter if people scrap Creationism or ID, sure that is fine, but they will simply find something else to excuse clinging to old mythology, they will simply find something else to hang their hat on.

But again, I am being fair to you CL this is the case with all religions in the world. It boils down to "Old habits are hard to break" and humans don't like their social norms being upset. So when a family or a sect or religious institution figures out their old arguments don't work, they simply try to invent new marketing.

The Cosmos series I mentioned touches on this a bit in each episode.  It is what I like to call "the gate keeper fallacy". Humans evolved to be curious so sure every part of the globe has made both big and small contributions to get to  where we are now. But that is not evidence that any religion is true or that any god exists.

I understand that people throughout history have tried to find explanation for things about the physical world through religion, especially when we didnt have much technology or means of studying science. And that was a mistake obviously. Science is the study of the physical world, and religion deals with the spiritual realm. Trying to explain things in the physical world through religion is barking up the wrong tree. Just as trying to explain something that deals with spirituality or the supernatural by using the scientific method. I don't expect the existence of God or angels, etc, to be proven through science because those things are not of the physical world and can't be tested.