To our Muslim/Christian members & all faiths....

[Astonished]

Religion and science are 2 different fields, and need not be in conflict with each other, per se. Unless your religious doctrine teaches something that directly contradicts a proven scientific fact (like that the earth is 6000 years old or whatever), there's no reason why the 2 need to be mutually exclusive. We had science class in my catholic grade school, and we learned about space, evolution, the big bang, and dinosaurs. And then we had religion class where we'd learn about religious history and catholic doctrines. It never once crossed my mind for there to be an inherent issue between the 2 subjects. It was no diffetent than learning how to add in math class, and then learning how to read in english class. Just 2 different fields.

I did start watching the show last night when I got home from my friends house. It's very good. Thanks for posting it brian. I got to almost half way before turning in to go to bed because it was late. I will finish watching tonight if I don't stay out too late.

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I understand that people throughout history have tried to find explanation for things about the physical world through religion, especially when we didnt have much technology or means of studying science. And that was a mistake obviously. Science is the study of the physical world, and religion deals with the spiritual realm. Trying to explain things in the physical world through religion is barking up the wrong tree. Just as trying to explain something that deals with spirituality or the supernatural by using the scientific method. I don't expect the existence of God or angels, etc, to be proven through science because those things are not of the physical world and can't be tested.

See, even someone seemingly as innocuous in their beliefs as you finally put your foot in your mouth. If you're not figuring out something through science, you're not figuring it out, period. You would have to demonstrate there is in fact something supernatural in order not to be talking utter nonsense, and to do that you'd have to show it empirically, i.e. scientifically. By definition the supernatural cannot be shown to exist because to determine if something is in fact supernatural, we'd have to be able to study it to the point where that could be the conclusion drawn based on the evidence and because that is not possible to do, the term becomes completely self-refuting. You want to pull a fast one and call it spiritual, same thing, that doesn't get it to pass smog.

You do no favors to yourself or the world trying to lug that dead weight around with you and that's in the best case scenario, at worst you're actually actively setting us back as a civilization and that I cannot abide. There is no excuse for that kind of thinking anymore, none. So much for saying that there's such a thing as someone whose faith-based beliefs are completely harmless, huh? Not that I ever fell for that anyway. You should be intelligent enough to understand this, too, I shouldn't have to explain why this is such a ridiculous position for you to hold. You already accept scientific theories with boatloads of evidence behind them and reject the majority of dogshit in your mythology, so what is keeping you going that extra step, when I and anyone with a layman's understanding of logic can show you why your beliefs are flatly wrong?